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What well known gambits are unsound?


  • 24 months ago · Quote · #342

    melvinbluestone

    Actually, 1.d4 e5 2.e4 Nc6 3.dxe5 Nxe5 4.f4 is quite playable for white.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #343

    mrguy888

    melvinbluestone wrote:

    Actually, 1.d4 e5 2.e4 Nc6 3.dxe5 Nxe5 4.f4 is quite playable for white.

    But he isn't basically a full pawn up is his point.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #344

    melvinbluestone

    mrguy888 wrote:
    melvinbluestone wrote:

    Actually, 1.d4 e5 2.e4 Nc6 3.dxe5 Nxe5 4.f4 is quite playable for white.

    But he isn't basically a full pawn up is his point.

    I see the point. But some players prefer to charge right in and attack, as in the f4 line I mentioned, rather than the more common 2.dxe5 Nc6. Of course, it usually transposes after 1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 Nc6 3.e4 Nxe5 4.f4. I'm not sure what difference the move order makes, except that in the 2.e4 line, white has the option of the (dubious) move 3.d5.         The game Miles-Huebner 1985 went:1. d4 e5 2. dxe5 Qh4 3. Nf3 Qa4 4. Nc3 Qa5 5. e4  draw!?  I wonder if it was some kind of joke......

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #345

    ponz111

    I recently had White against the Elephant Gambit  1.e4  e5  2. Nf3  d5 and found that by the time I had barely got a good game-I was running out of time--it is a tough gambit to play against if you never experienced it before.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #346

    melvinbluestone

    I love playing either side of the Elephant. As white, after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d5, I sometimes try 3.d4. I think 3.Nxe5 and 3.exd5 are more common, and probably better. But 3.d4 is playable and often throws black off in fast games. But one time in a bullet game I forgot to take my knight "off-prise" at move four:  1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d5 3.d4 dxe4 4.Bc4?? (4.Nxe5) exf3 5.Qxf3 Nf6 6.dxe5 Bg4 7.Qxb7 (I thought I was getting my piece back) Qd1 #...........

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #347

    melvinbluestone

    Also, the variation of the Soller, 1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 Nc6 3.Nf3 Bc5 (instead of 3...f6 immediately) 4.Nc3 f6, may be an improvement.....


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