Evolution or not?

What was your groups name again? Can't seem to find it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

Cool lost my password, gotta get a new one.

This is very interesting theme  for me, becouse I have been studing  microbiological activity of forest soil (structure of microbes community and enzyme activity). I understand that soil microbes didn`t change (for example microbes from marshes). Microbes  have very high level of adaptation

Some bacteria have remained unchanged for billions of years, now that's pretty cool. That would suggest to me that our atmosphere and environment has been fairly stable for a long time, at least certain parts of it. The theory goes that cyanobacteria first started producing the oxygen in our atmosphere and that eventually organic material took over. Of course diatoms in the oceans still produce most of our oxygen.

Yes, those little critters are highly adaptive. They can alter their DNA by plasmid transfers( DNA transfer) to other microbes or directly into the environment where other bacteria can pick the DNA up. That's pretty amazing. They usually win the wars against our antibiotics by either mutating so as a loss of site specificity occurs and the antibiotics can't bind or attach to them.

Also antibiotic resistant genes have been around for thousands of years. It's no wonder that we're losing the war on these guys.

Evolution is possible till to the top, till to become a monkey, inteligent as a bee and agile as an alligator, but this human that looks a god is a child of chaos and god affairs to mantain the power in the jungle.

@Raspberry wrote:

[ "On the other hand music is universal so it must be hardwired in the brain.   As far as I know, the knowledge of why the genes make a brain that likes music is total zero." ]

This remaind me with japanese scientist that many years ago conduct experiment about water crystal behavior.It was found that water crystal will show beautiful formation structures if it was exposed to such positive  emotion(eg.good words).And shows conversely toward negative emotion.

This is basically almost support Aristotle hypothesis (post #207).Finally, the abiogenesis isn't surprising ?

Antibiotics have been abused and misused. They're even given to farm animals to make them bigger. Even vancomycin is losing its effectiveness to some of the superbugs like MRSA. Drug resistant bacteria are winning the war.

It only takes one mutation at a binding site on bacteria and they become resistant to antibiotics. The resistant bugs then spread out and take over. Its only a matter of time until we have something worse than the Spanish flue during WW1. About 5% of the world's population was killed.

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A more interesting unsolved problem is sleep - the scientists have no idea what it is for, just know it is extremely important biologically. They have a lot of information, but it doesnt make sense really.

Doesnt make sense from a design perspective either. Why would a designer not design us to the stuff he likes us to do all the time instead of just having to lie down a lot? No designer in his right mind would design a machine that was meant to be inactive 1/3 of the time for no reason :)

Also, memories are weird. I have so many. It's hard to believe they are stored in this gelatinous squishy , grayish thing they call the brain. I mean, I have whole WORLDS in my head.

Yeah memory is weird also.

Music is strange also, and I always wondered why the creationists didnt use music instead. For me it's really hard to imagine any reason evolution would have made us like music. Evolution should make us kill stuff to eat and make babies and take care of them and such, not sitting around listening to noise for no reason whatsoever. And why would we prefer listening to rhytms than random noise? Cant even imagine why an organism that likes to listen to rhytms is better at surviving than an organism that doesnt care about it, from a biological perspective music looks like an unnecessary distraction.

On the other hand music is universal so it must be hardwired in the brain. As far as I know, the knowledge of why the genes make a brain that likes music is total zero.

So there you go Einsten, some ammo for you :)

Rythmic = mating call? Like birds? Idk.

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Something I learned not too long ago, probably because the international study just came out , is that songbirds, parrots, and parakeets have similar neural networks that humans do in the vocalizing areas of the brain.

There are over 50 homologous proteins in songbirds and humans that comprise these two designated areas.

Since birds and humans supposedly don't descend from each other on a morphological tree, this would be a difficult task for evolutionary mechanisms to explain. 😕

Some other articles from that humansarefree.com website:

MoreWhiskey.com

And that's why I don't use websites, but do my own thinking. There's way too much garbage out there. Besides , if someone else does your thinking for ya, what good is that. 😉

We have common ancestor though, both are vertebrates. So maybe the first vertebrates were musically inclined.

You can almost see in the picture he's about to burst into song.

You missed the point about the song birds and human dilemma Alex. We don't find those 50 similar proteins in any other species. Also they are are not in any other bird species. In other words it appears that common descent is not in view but common design.

Evolutionists have tried to explain this and many other similar situations away by coining the term 'convergent evolution'.

I've been reading everything so far. Thanks Einstein for creating this thread! This is very interesting!

Sort of like our universe Alex, the first living cells, the first genes, our conciousness, our minds and feelings, and our spirits.

What would appear to us as magic would be simple stuff for any highly advanced beings or metaphysical existants.

You need to open up your mind to other possibilities Alex. Reality isn't as it always appears. 😉

If a comet fall on earth,can we predict its origin ?

We try to reconstruct the rise of first living thing on earth based on extraterestrial theory.This is if abiogenesis couldn't be made here on earth.

Do you mean The abiogenesis have happened on earth ?