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Evans Gambit game


  • 19 months ago · Quote · #21

    OldHastonian

    -waller- wrote:

    So Short's "patent" is based on 3 games only, (ignoring the 2011 blitz game)

    Ignoring databases for a moment, what are the reasons for 0-0 being better? Given that you can castle next move, and 7.Qb3 cuts out some possible responses for Black (including an immediate Nge7, although that didn't stop a 1600 playing it against me in a recent tournament lol!)

    I don't think 7.0-0 is "better" having now studied 7.Qb3 and of course our Greek comrade prefers the latter Wink

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #22

    learningthemoves

    -waller- wrote:
    OldHastonian wrote:

    So Short's "patent" is based on 3 games only, (ignoring the 2011 blitz game)

    Ignoring databases for a moment, what are the reasons for 0-0 being better? Given that you can castle next move, and 7.Qb3 cuts out some possible responses for Black (including an immediate Nge7, although that didn't stop a 1600 playing it against me in a recent tournament lol!)

    One possible reason may be the 7...Qe7 reply from black. However I've played both variations with success, but that may be the reason.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #23

    -waller-

    Ah fair enough, I thought you were still advocating it.

    Another interesting game with 7.Qb3 is Molner-Bartholomew at Copper State Int'l 2010. Gives an example of White winning with this against strong opposition anyway!

    http://chesstempo.com/gamedb/game/2821579

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #24

    Scottrf

    Qe7 is actually inferior to the move played in the game because it puts the queen on the same diagonal as the bishop after a later Ba3 and can cause problems with castling. The knight is better on e7, blocking the diagonal than f6 .

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #25

    -waller-

    Agree Scottrf, Qf6 is stronger - probably Bartholomew decided he didn't know the line that well. A practical advantage of the Evans (and another reason to favour OTB chess over correspondence!)

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #26

    Scottrf

    Haven't put it through a computer yet, but just wondering what was best on move 9 here (and any improvements elsewhere). Obviously I'd like to save that bishop but retreating to c4 allows Na5.



    http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=63734482

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #28

    Scottrf

    Thanks. Yeah, Na5 seems a lot more challenging. With the pawn back, a good centre, easier development and a breezy black king white seems to be doing well here. Disappointingly I missed quite a few tactics, although some of them were complications I felt unnecessary (23. Bg5 doesn't make a lot of practical sense to me).

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #29

    shepi13

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #30

    -waller-

    I got to try out pfren's suggestion - though it's a shame the game didn't last a bit longer!



  • 17 months ago · Quote · #31

    dezathrus

    is it too early to play 19. d6??? I think opening the c file for your highly mobile rooke and queen would be better considering cxe5  Nxd5...

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #32

    OldHastonian

    padman wrote:

    Interesting question. I played the 7. Qb3 line against an IM a week or two ago and got crushed very badly so I was motivated to have a look at it and the alternatives afterwards.

    Would it be fair to say that switching back to 7.0-0 didn't help very much? Tongue Out

    Seriously though, I'm still not convinced either about 7.Qb3, but haven't got the aptitude for further analysis.

  • 8 months ago · Quote · #33

    -waller-

    Won a 45|45 game using the Evans - in a slightly different line (the one where Black takes 2 pawns (a la Fine) then gives up the bishop pair and tries to defend. It wasn't a quick knockout but I thought I played quite well - combined different ideas from this thread with Qc1 featuring, and also as padman suggested building up the pressure in the centre more slowly rather than trying to force things - worked out nicely! Might turn this into a Evans Gambit games thread - other people feel free to post too.


    The main inaccuracies for White that I've already noted are 20.Re4 not being so great (20...Na5 seems to counter it quite well) and for some reason not playing 34.Ra4. I'm not even sure Qc1 was best in this specific position but I don't think it was bad with the idea of bringing the queen to f4.


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