I guess it depends what you are playing, but if you have time deside on your move than take a check counting all pieces under attack (black and white) then do your move
Forgetting piece is threatened!
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mrhjornevik wrote:
I guess it depends what you are playing, but if you have time deside on your move than take a check counting all pieces under attack (black and white) then do your move
OK thanks for the hint
slowlybutsurely79 wrote:
mrhjornevik wrote:
I guess it depends what you are playing, but if you have time deside on your move than take a check counting all pieces under attack (black and white) then do your move
OK thanks for the hint
Or even better, count threats and attacks, decide your move and count again. If you get to different answers you have overlooked something.
white actually had 32.Qxh6!
When you have a piece threatened, your analyzed moves should be ones that do something about it or make a stronger counter threat. Don't just analyze random moves; your analysis should be guided by the presence of the threat.
FancyKnight wrote:
white actually had 32.Qxh6!
True, the engine said so as well when I analysed it after
FancyKnight wrote:
When you have a piece threatened, your analyzed moves should be ones that do something about it or make a stronger counter threat. Don't just analyze random moves; your analysis should be guided by the presence of the threat.
That is sound advice, agreed
You are not alone. Lately, I try to do a last minute safety check, which often reveals what I'd forgotten.
LesuhAn wrote:
You are not alone. Lately, I try to do a last minute safety check, which often reveals what I'd forgotten.
It's the thinking pattern I need to adjust I guess. On a humorous note, yesterday I was playing on my phone on chess.com and meant rook to say g6 and by mistake I hit G5 losing me the game! I wasn't pleased at all :) !
Did your phone survive? My instinct would be to throw it, Lol!
LesuhAn wrote:
Did your phone survive? My instinct would be to throw it, Lol!
Yeah it did, only just :)
That "problem" will stick for a long time, but hopefully become less and less important. After some practice you don't actively look for threatened pieces, you see them without consciously looking for them.
By the way did you consider 30.Qxh6+? It fails, but deserves to be calculated:
Irontiger wrote:
That "problem" will stick for a long time, but hopefully become less and less important. After some practice you don't actively look for threatened pieces, you see them without consciously looking for them.
By the way did you consider 30.Qxh6+? It fails, but deserves to be calculated:
Hope you're right.
I was black in this game so couldn't do that Queen move.
slowlybutsurely79 wrote:
LesuhAn wrote:
You are not alone. Lately, I try to do a last minute safety check, which often reveals what I'd forgotten.
It's the thinking pattern I need to adjust I guess. On a humorous note, yesterday I was playing on my phone on chess.com and meant rook to say g6 and by mistake I hit G5 losing me the game! I wasn't pleased at all :) !
Chess requires a disciplined thinking pattern. Two steps towards a disciplined thinking pattern are:
1. Sit on your hands when playing a game. This will require that you play standard time control games of 2 hours or more. Playing rapid transit games is harmful to your game at your level. If you would like to know why strong players play rapid transit please let me know.
2. Write a Before I Make A Move List. Check each item on the list 2x before making a move. An item on that list should be: Do I or my opponent have an undefended piece or pawn in the present position or in the position after my move. After repeated use of the list you will have memorized it and it will be your thinking pattern.
Not to worry, it happens to me frequently enough, too.
A slight variation of this mistake is: All pieces are currently safe, but by moving one piece, you indirectly put another piece in distress. See the following game excerpt of mine:
I suspect the mental trap here is that none of the directly dependent pieces are moved. The "normal" mistake would be to move the queen away.
Of course I had at least two "justifications" not to move the knight to a3: 1. knights are bad on the rim and 2. if the knight cannot go to c4, he can be brought to the kingside, a typical maneuvre in the Ruy Lopez.
Anyways, this is how it went... 
Yaroslavl wrote:
slowlybutsurely79 wrote:
LesuhAn wrote:
You are not alone. Lately, I try to do a last minute safety check, which often reveals what I'd forgotten.
It's the thinking pattern I need to adjust I guess. On a humorous note, yesterday I was playing on my phone on chess.com and meant rook to say g6 and by mistake I hit G5 losing me the game! I wasn't pleased at all :) !
Chess requires a disciplined thinking pattern. Two steps towards a disciplined thinking pattern are:
1. Sit on your hands when playing a game. This will require that you play standard time control games of 2 hours or more. Playing rapid transit games is harmful to your game at your level. If you would like to know why strong players play rapid transit please let me know.
2. Write a Before I Make A Move List. Check each item on the list 2x before making a move. An item on that list should be: Do I or my opponent have an undefended piece or pawn in the present position or in the position after my move. After repeated use of the list you will have memorized it and it will be your thinking pattern.
I agree with you but online it seems that the slowest chess is 30mins. I tried to stop playing online and simply dedicate my chess time to tactics, book study and guessing the moves of annotated games of Capablanca but after a while it seems like I want the adrenaline of playing online if you get what I mean so I go for a mix.
Certainly Blitz and 15/10 games are making me rush moves more and more, blunder more and getting me lazier with my thinking
There is the option of playing what Chess.com calles 'Online Chess'. By using this, you can train yourself to think more about these things and incorporate them into your thinking.
TomHaegin wrote:
Not to worry, it happens to me frequently enough, too.
A slight variation of this mistake is: All pieces are currently safe, but by moving one piece, you indirectly put another piece in distress. See the following game excerpt of mine:
I suspect the mental trap here is that none of the directly dependent pieces are moved. The "normal" mistake would be to move the queen away.
Of course I had at least two "justifications" not to move the knight to a3: 1. knights are bad on the rim and 2. if the knight cannot go to c4, he can be brought to the kingside, a typical maneuvre in the Ruy Lopez.
Anyways, this is how it went...
Well, perfect example, it's clear many players get this, good to know I'm not alone
On the knight to the side, don't take it as a definite rule, sometimes even the engine recommends knight to the side
kleelof wrote:
There is the option of playing what Chess.com calles 'Online Chess'. By using this, you can train yourself to think more about these things and incorporate them into your thinking.
I gave this a go and was doing well until I got careless cause I had a real tournament and forgot to move, losing all games! Having said this you're right, I should revert to online chess
Hi Everyone,
I've noticed that from time to time, I have a piece that is threatened and I forget all about it and lose it!
What happens is that I know it's threatened, then my mind starts analysing other moves and I forget that my piece was originally threatened and lose it!
It's really frustrating, the following game is the latest example, it's my penultimate move. Any ideas how I can overcome it? Does anyone have/had this problem?
Thanks
Dennis