As many of you know, Stockfish is always in the top 3 world chess engines. So I very much doubt it made a mistake. Can anyone help me understand it better?
http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=101688848
Is it stockfish or is it just me?
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engines simply do not understand fortresses, this position is dead drawn.
give it a drawn r+p vs q+p fortress without a database, it will say like +5 when its a dead draw
Thanks KirbyCake, I did not know that.
From starting position, it is win for white.
Earth64 wrote:
From starting position, it is win for white.
I don't think it is. There is no place for the White king to break through.
Can you provide a winning line?
Earth64 wrote:
From starting position, it is win for white.
Looks like a draw to me and Stockfish 6 on my machine scores the starting position dead even at depth 45.
In this type of position, if there is no entry point for the king it is a draw. Your assessment was correct. As KirbyCake said an engine usually won't evaluate this type of drawn position correctly.
Engines have some weaknesses. This is one of them.
For some reason I don't have a version of the Crafty engine handy.
Crafty is usually good at this type of position (since it's makers got tired of ~2200 players stealing draws from it). I'd be curious how fast it finds the draw.
Here is the solution
b6+ is wrong move
Looks like Earth64 is correct.
Yeah the draw is after b6+, good find by Earth64.
It's true that b6 doesn't win however, what move is better?
bxc doesn't win either.
Earth64 has the wrong starting position set up, pawn is on h7, not h6.
Do not talk like foolish
It is clear win for white
Earth64 wrote:
It is clear win for white
look at your initial position!!!!!
it's wrong!!!!!
the h pawn is on h7 not h6.thus black can waste a move and regain opposition