This is what happens in a blowout.

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ChessforFunn

Any suggestions????

Edit: Qe4 wins, so dont bother with Bh3.

DrSpudnik

6. d6 is a blunder. You have to challenge the advance Knight with c3

ChessforFunn

Hey, I know. This is not "perfect chess", this is a blowout.

pfren

Yes, 6.c3 b5 7.Bf1! is the test of Black's opening.

6.d6 is not a blunder, just a secondrate move. The real blunder is 7.Nxf7?? after which white is totally lost.

9...Bh3? may win, but 9...Bg4 and 9...Qe4+ are much quicker.

ChessforFunn

Lemme expand on this.

ChessforFunn

Pfren, how does Bh3 not win? 

bruceybaby100

White is lost. Instead of black playing bh3 should play  Qf4+ . wins the queen or  mate with nf4. From the top example

ChessforFunn

Oh! Sorry, different variation.

pfren

Bh3 wins, but ...Bg4 gets the full house at once.

In #5, the old line is 8.Ne4 when 8...Qh4? is ultimately unsound, but 8...Ne6! gives Black good compensation for the pawn. The problem for Black is the line 8.cd4! Qxg5 9.Bxb5+ Kd8 10.0-0(!) Bb7 11.Qf3 which has been played quite a bit recently, and Black is suffering.

ChessforFunn

I REALLY want to show my secret line, but no. I can't.

pfren
ChessforFunn wrote:

I REALLY want to show my secret line, but no. I can't.


It's apparent that you cannot show something that doesn't exist.

Cataphract887
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ChessforFunn

Can't you play this?
pfren

Play what?

10...Bh3 blunders a piece after 11.Qf3 (which was white's intention, in any case).

DrSpudnik

To OP: There are whole books on the 2 Knights Defense, you know.

ChessforFunn

... This has never been played in a whole game that i ever know of. Just Btw.

Yeesh! Not even close to my intention.

pfren

Going for a cheapo on g2 does not work: on a direct 10...Nf4 white has 11.Bc6! Rb8 12.de5, while on 10...Rb8 11.Bc6 ed4!? 12.d3 Nf4 the new move 13.Na3! gives white a clear advantage.

SandyJames

Thank you IM Pfren for your insights. I know this old game but I never play e4 - not a single game since I started playing on this site. Always 1 d4. 

Thank you, Smile

majorkevin12

why doesnt qe4 win the bishop can kill the queen