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29th December 2007, 09:00am
#1
by SuperKnight42
Old City United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 14444

Many people say "Chess is art".  

What is art? 

Why do you think chess is art?

29th December 2007, 09:21am
#2
by SuperKnight42
Old City United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 14444

Emanuel Lasker said:

 

" The most intelligent inspection of any number of fine paintings will not make the observer a painter; nor will listening to a number of operas make the hearer a musician, but good judges of music and painting may be so formed.  Chess differes from these.  The intelligent perusal of fine games cannot fail to make the reader a better player and a better judge of the play of others."

29th December 2007, 10:33am
#3
by add
chardon United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 1377
art is free to express what it wants it has only the borderline rules which can be slightly changed, and so does chess it has basic and boarder-line rules, such as how the pieces move but it is also free in the way that you can move the pieces in any direction. So when people are comparing the two they should look at the drawing untencil in art as the chess pieces in chess the both can move freely but also have rules.   
29th December 2007, 11:15am
#4
by DarkTower
Swamps of Georgia United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 12
Chess is definitely art...just sometimes bad art. Like any good work, it takes time, practice and more time to develop. In this "microwave" society we live in, most people do not like the simple pleasures of a well executed attack. Most want to plug into the shepherd they call a television and be "amused" by wax figures called actors. I, on the other hand, find solace in more worthwhile pursuits...But to each his own. I much prefer the art of chess to the pretend world that is T.V. and amplified frequency.
30th December 2007, 04:35am
#5
by SuperKnight42
Old City United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 14444

add and DarkTower,

I agree with you in some points. Some chess games are beautiful. Some are brilliant. We think they are because we could not realize the moves without struggling.

However, if everyone gets familiar with all of the variations of the chess game. If humans minds are faster and more powerful than they are now. Is chess still an art?

It is like math. The whole math theory is beatiful and you can say it is art. However, how many people learned 1+1=2 as a piece of art?

 

30th December 2007, 08:49am
#6
by Manjazam
Seremban,NS Malaysia
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 294

...i think the defination of art is something that is beautiful in its STATE..English is not my mother tongue im not sure i say it correctly..a painting is of course an Art,but can i say i have the art of doing work..?meaning i execute that particular work with much care that the end result is beautiful with cleanniness,on time,etc2..A young teenager has his room full of disorder..clothes and shoes were lying everywhere..but i dont mind because i think the disorderliness is an art in its state of a young boy..did u know every painting let it be nice or ugly is an Art because the imperfections drawn by human hands is what it is all about...i think i dont expect something 100% perfections from paintings...because if i want it i should look at PHOTOGRAPHY...

...chess is a games of leisure..i think maths cannot be a comparison..Yes i can agree that chess is an art ..the very own states that it influences players....TQ.

30th December 2007, 04:14pm
#7
by SuperKnight42
Old City United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 14444

Sounds reasonable Manjazam.  Thanks for the reply.   But I still think chess and math are similar.  They are all logical.

30th December 2007, 10:09pm
#8
by Manjazam
Seremban,NS Malaysia
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 294
..Ok..technically they are similar in terms of possibilities..i think..? TQ
30th December 2007, 10:57pm
#9
by Singa
Singapore
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 228

  In the good old days, pre WWI,  Masterchess games were played at a leisurely pace and players like Alekhine, Capablanca , Rubinstein etc.,  played not only to win ,but to win it beautifully! Some of their games became "immortal art" forms.

To-day, with rapid time-control, it is no longer possible. Players play to win their games as fast as possible. Beauty is thrown to the winds! What does it matter how you win your game? As long as you WIN it!

16th February 2008, 04:54am
#10
by jawadhf
Syria
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 61

chess is jujst a game it is similar to the playing CARDS

 and both are just very very small part inside  MATH ...

chess = counting squares , evaluation of the situation , calculations ,, thinking in the next few moves  and evaluate the positions..... studing openings and middle game and end game .... taking decisions...

maybe it is same as a flow chart in programming  , or each game  is like a small program

 

Best wishes

 


16th February 2008, 06:12am
#11
by 9queens
Bucharest Romania
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 16

 I want to compare chess more with television, bicose its like making a film.(with 2 regisors)

Usuali hoo is playng chess verry nice , understends math more queeqly. Its about logic.And what music beginners  meens to music, chess beginners meens to chess.

 


3rd May 2008, 02:55pm
#12
by God2
Malaysia
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 1084

art is the conscious production or arrangement of sounds, colors, forms, movements, or other elements in a manner that affects the sense of beauty, specifically the production of the beautiful in a graphic or plastic medium.

so chess is a kind of art too


6th August 2008, 02:45am
#13
by Eventhorizon
Psychonaut City Germany
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 839

Chess is abstract like Abstract Paintings and constructed like Poetry in Verse...

17th August 2008, 01:14pm
#14
by sin1977
LeMoOrE United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 240

chess is art do to the fact that kings and queens of this world played many centurys ago , it can follow under the art of war ..

 

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