Mac42 wrote:
Now that we're properly introduced to Alekhine and Euve, does anyone want to take a try at Ljubomir Ljubojevic?
loo bo meer loo bo yay vich
How do you pronounce Alekhine?
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Elubas wrote:
But how can we know you are right, Jake Green?
Well, I am ;)
Its one of those chess trivias that I learned when I was a kid. Alekhin himself did not like it when people mispronounced his name because it is easy to do if you speak Russian. There are some sources to confirm my statement but I am not looking for them, you just gonna have to take my word for it or research it.
Alyohin (i as "ee", but not long)
I used to play chess with a Russian kid, and he corrected me on all these names.
Alekhine = AL-eh-keen
Kasparov = kas-PAR-ov
Petrosian = peh-TRAH-see-an
Alekhin's name in Russia was pronounced "al YO kheen". When he moved to France, he took a more French pronounciation, "al YE Kheen".
Russians still pronounce his name "al YO kheen", but many argue that is incorrect.
Oxfor Companion To Chess:
Al-yech-een
frank124c wrote:
Now that we have figured out how to pronounce Alekhine we come to the most important question of all--was he anti-semitic? There are articles supposedly written with his byline in German making anti-semitic statements which he later denied saying he had to write some of the articles to get an exit visa and other articles were written and published in his name without his permission. He has always gotten along with Jewish chessplayers and acquaintances and his 4th wife was Jewish. So was he or wasn"t he?
Despite his denials, it was later proven that he did in fact write these articles. The manuscropts were found among his belongings after his death.
Now I would like you to imagine yourself inside Nazi-occupied France. And these murederous thugs are holding that gun to YOUR head. would you not write a similar article?
It is easy to be principled from the comfort of an office chair, with nothing at stake.
Everyone's saying it's pronounced in a different way, lol.
Hell if I know.
His cat called him "meaw" :D
I pronounce it Throatwarbler Mangrove.
Al- ka- line.
Further to posts nr 46 and 48 : the Oxford Companion to Chess gives this pronunciation : lioobo-yevich.
Although the original question is about Aljechin, when we add Ljubojevic to this forum, we also can ask for a fast pronunciation of the following name of an unofficial world champion in Shatranj-chess in Persia around the years 940-970 Abu'l Faraj bin al-Muzaffar bin Sa'-id al-Lajlaj, but friends called him "The Stammerer".
Naver make jokes about names ! See Shakespeare about roses !
Finally : I saw Tal's name written as " Talj ", can anyone explain ?
RomyGer wrote:
Finally : I saw Tal's name written as " Talj ", can anyone explain ?
All i can say is that THETUBESTER will not be happy with this! :D
RomyGer wrote:
Finally : I saw Tal's name written as " Talj ", can anyone explain ?
I believe the "j" is that little Cyrillic doodad that looks like a "b"...which usually seems to go untranslated into English.
hifivepokemon wrote:
Al- ka- line.
Nope, that's him:
But Eseles and Thetubester : why not happy with that question about Tal or Talj ?
And AndyClifton : thanks for the explanation about l and lj !
Al-YOE-chin, with the 'ch' similar to l'chayim.
But how can we know you are right, Jake Green?