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AnishBhargava

Just Wondering?

notmtwain

It's buried in the bottom drawer somewhere.

AnishBhargava

what?

notmtwain

I looked up "2 minute rule" and saw that the search results mostly pointed to a book that tells people to stop procrastinating and just do what needs to get done. My response was a (n evidently) feeble attempt at a joke.

If there is something chess related about a 2 minute rule, I do not know what it is. Perhaps you could explain what you mean.

Firethorn15

He means when your clock gets down to 2 minutes, you can ask the TD over and if your opponent isn't trying to win and is just trying to run your clock down, he can award a draw. And no, there isn't. It would be impossible to implement

SevenOneWCSF

That is a rule in OTB chess?? Surely, your opponent has every right to play nothing moves and win on time?

AnishBhargava

if your opponent has two minutes and is up by a whole piece, he may not be able to checkmate on time. He then offers a draw and the opponent has to accept

SevenOneWCSF

That definately sounds like a rule that I would hate, even more so than the first! Are these both rules or am I being trolled/misinformed?

Tapani
SevenOneWCSF wrote:

That is a rule in OTB chess?? Surely, your opponent has every right to play nothing moves and win on time?

You can claim a draw if your opponent makes no effort to win, or you have a fortress. (Applies when you have under 2 mins, no increment)

notmtwain

Rules governing time trouble[edit]

FIDE has some additional rules regarding players in time trouble.

The first rule regards the recording of moves. A player with less than five minutes remaining, in a game where there is not a 30-second or greater time increment per move, is not required to keep score as usual. However if the player makes the time control, he must update the scoresheet before making a move as soon as the flag falls, marking expiry of the first, and now passed, time control. If only one player is in time trouble and not recording moves, the opponent's scoresheet may be used to update the score. In the case of mutual time pressure, where both players have stopped recording the moves, the tournament director or an assistant should be on hand to record the moves as they are played, and their notes can be used to update the scoresheets upon passage of the time control. If the game score is not recorded by anybody during the time pressure period, the players shall endeavor to reconstruct the moves of the game, under the control of the tournament director, if this is not possible the game continues with the next move being regarded as the first move of the next time control.[3]

The second rule regards the arbiter's possibility of ending a game as drawn due to a player's lack of effort in winning the game by "normal means". Occasionally it happens in a sudden death time control without increments that a player has trouble in physically executing an indefinite series of moves in the time remaining. The opponent could try playing on this, and continue to play on in the hopes of winning by time forfeit, rather than by winning the position on the board. To prevent this FIDE has article 10.2.[4] A player with less than two minutes remaining can claim a draw and summon the arbiter, if he believes that the opponent is no longer trying to win the game by normal means, or that the position is such that it is impossible for the opponent to try and win by normal means. The opponent may accept the claimant's draw request, which ends the game by agreement.[5] If the opponent does not agree to the draw, the arbiter may accept the claim (which ends the game immediately as a draw), reject the claim (after which the game continues, with the opponent receiving two additional minutes), or postpone the decision. In this case the opponent may be given two minutes extra, and the game continues until the arbiter makes a call or the claimant's flag falls after which the arbiter makes a decision. Decisions made by the arbiter under 10.2 are final.

The rules allowing an arbiter to declare a game drawn do not apply to blitz chess. Several high level blitz tournaments, such as the 2009 World Blitz Championship, are played with a two-second increment which allows players time to execute moves and discourages attempts to win on time in trivially drawn positions such as king and knight versus king and knight.[6]

 

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_trouble

notmtwain

Chess.com does have the rule that a player without sufficient mating material cannot win by time. Those games are automatically declared draws if time runs out on the player who does have sufficient material to make a check-mate.

I don't know what happens in king versus king situations, where both have insufficient material.

SevenOneWCSF
notmtwain wrote:

I don't know what happens in king versus king situations, where both have insufficient material.

Thank you for posting those rules. Personally I dislike all of them but that isn't my call. As for insufficient material on both sides on chess.com, I believe that the game is ended and drawn the instant that the second player becomes unable to mate.