Resigned Game Stats

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14th January 2009, 08:31am
#1
by onosson
Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 725

With all the current discussions around the topic of resigning, I have a very different question on that subject.

I just resigned a game in which I got off to a bad start, and I was curious about my resigned game statistics.  So, I went to look at my stats and discovered that there was no information on my resigned games anywhere! (or maybe I'm just not looking hard enough...)

I wonder if anyone else would care to know anything about their resigned games - how many points they were down, difference in rating versus their opponent, total and percentage of resigned losses/wins, etc.

15th January 2009, 12:09am
#2
by onosson
Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 725

I guess the answer to my question is: no one!

15th January 2009, 12:56am
#3
by BorgQueen
Adelaide Australia
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 4564

I analyse every game I play, so once that's done, the game becomes "the past" and statistics aren't that important to me... I just do my best and learn what I can when I lose.

I only resign when I know I'm beat and there is little or no hope of any kind of turn around.

15th January 2009, 01:23am
#4
by nqi
Southland New Zealand
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 445
BorgQueen wrote:

I only resign when I know I'm beat and there is little or no hope of any kind of turn around.


 As do I and I suspect most others. I don't think many people would find much use for such statistics. Having said that, it is an interesting suggestion...

15th January 2009, 01:32am
#5
by freezenyr
central region of New York state United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1668

it is an interesting suggestion; I agree.  I resign when I feel I have essentially no chance for a win or draw and I also study all games; especially my bad ones. 

15th January 2009, 02:14am
#6
by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 3173
onosson wrote:

I guess the answer to my question is: no one!


If onosson asks a question - and no-one is around to hear it: did he really ask it in the first place?

There have been previous enquiries about expanding the detail on game outcome i.e. breaking down draws into (draw by insufficient material; draw by stalemate; ...); losses broken down into (checkmate; resignation; out of time; illegal move; ...)

The interesting data that might be derivable from resignation stats is a more concrete guideline about when it's probably time to consider resigning - based on such factors as: your own rating, the rating difference; the difference in material, the number of moves (i.e. the stage of the game). What such stats would fail to capture, however, is the positional state e.g. forced mate in 3.

Another value in such stats is that it would explicitly label resigners as such. For players seeking opponents who are prepared to resign, this would be a tell-tale indicator.

15th January 2009, 08:12am
#7
by onosson
Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 725
nqi wrote:
BorgQueen wrote:

I only resign when I know I'm beat and there is little or no hope of any kind of turn around.


 As do I and I suspect most others. I don't think many people would find much use for such statistics.


I can't be the only one who resigns after a bad blunder early in a game, can I?

15th January 2009, 08:56am
#8
by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 3173
onosson wrote:
nqi wrote:
BorgQueen wrote:

I only resign when I know I'm beat and there is little or no hope of any kind of turn around.


 As do I and I suspect most others. I don't think many people would find much use for such statistics.


I can't be the only one who resigns after a bad blunder early in a game, can I?


By you or by your opponent - or doesn't it make any difference?

15th January 2009, 09:18am
#9
by onosson
Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 725

Ha!  I don't think I've ever resigned after my opponent's blunder, but I guess there's always a first time for everything...

16th January 2009, 01:17am
#10
by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 3173
onosson wrote:

Ha!  I don't think I've ever resigned after my opponent's blunder, but I guess there's always a first time for everything...


Roll up! Roll up! Play onosson and get free points! Make a blunder and he'll resign (maybe).

16th January 2009, 01:28am
#11
by nqi
Southland New Zealand
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 445

Sounds like a rating improvement plan...Laughing

Edit: Crap! Unfornuatly not with my rating Embarassed Can I get a guarantee on that in case you don't onnoson? Now, for that King Grob Gambit research...

2nd February 2009, 06:46pm
#12
by Billium248
Detroit Rock City (GMT-4), MI United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 8166

I would love to see the stats page include the percentage breakdowns (of wins and losses) for "Game ended by: Checkmate, Resignation, Time Out."

 

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