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Harvey_Wallbanger

   Occasionally, I play a friend OTB. Often they are infrequent chess players. I do not like to play anyone without a clock. But it is hopeless. These kinds of players are offended by the suggestion of using a clock and feel pressured.

   OK...whatever. Then they take 5 minutes to make the first move. Maybe 10 on the second. They need to use the restroom. They go when it is their turn, so I have to swallow spit for 15 minutes until they return. Then they take 20 more minutes to move.

   I just "suck it up". What else can you do? These are "friendly" games. I would never ask them to resign...not even when they are taking 30 minutes to move and they are in zugzwang and my next move is checkmate.

    However, there is one thing I do do. Say they have already taken 10 or 15 minutes to consider their move. I will look about the room, then look them in the eye (well, they are usually looking down, staring at the board and pieces), with an expression of combined innocence and confusion and say: "Have you moved yet?"

   But that's as far as I will go. To do more, as suggested above, is to be a douche.

   I think my patience has come with age. I am an old man. Waiting for the wife and daughters has been excellent training in patience and "biting the tongue". To do otherwise invites "unintended consequences"...namely catastrophe. So, young men..."listen up"!

Colin20G

Here is the rule: beg a resign if you want but you MUSTN'T use words, gestures or anything. You must make your request using legit chess moves exclusively. Capture queen, lots of pieces. Push passed pawns to their goal. Drag his weakened king out of safety. Exert unbearable pressure. Etc etc.

PS: If for any reason you cannot do any of the above, why the **** do you feel entitled to have the other guy resign? Please explain.

ChessPatzer987

I don't think there's a way to "politely" ask your opponent to resign.

Harvey_Wallbanger

   Yes, but there are people who will never understand this. On the internet, they are spared the nasty look from across the board. (And I always quickly resign a lost game...but never with a really inferior player because with them I still win when down a Q...lol...true).

   These players who ask the opponent to resign are also quick to ask for a draw. I almost always accept a draw when the game is equal and from a player that I respect. What "frosts" me is when I am a piece ahead and the opponent asks for a draw. OK, sometimes if I am just one point ahead...when I can see he's going to lose.

   What's the matter with these people?! Don't tell me. I'd rather not know. Wink

Harvey_Wallbanger

   I said I didn't want to know. Smile

TheRealGMBobbyFish

In OTB Tournaments it would be against the rules:

12.6

It is forbidden to distract or annoy the opponent in any manner whatsoever. This includes unreasonable claims, unreasonable offers of a draw or the introduction of a source of noise into the playing area

In blitz or bullet here it does happen. It is a bit rude but trash talk in blitz isn't a big deal.  In long games I would say it is bad manners.

Harvey_Wallbanger

   Trash talk isn't just rude...it is cowardly. I would like to see a trash talker do so while sitting across the board from someone.

TheRealGMBobbyFish
Harvey_Wallbanger wrote:

   Trash talk isn't just rude...it is cowardly. I would like to see a trash talker do so while sitting across the board from someone.

In casual OTB blitz games it happens.  It's not a big deal.  Here, most of the trash talkers are just protecting their fragile egos so it is mostly just pathetic

Harvey_Wallbanger

   For you, it's not a "big deal". For others (including me), it is a big deal.

   As you get higher up in the food chain, players are just as aggressive but are more polished and far more civil.

Quiksilverau

Down in the swamp where I live, players almost never resign, and will instead try to flag you even with 1-2 minutes on the clock.

beyond disgusting, desperate for e-stat :)

I often request politely that people resign after they blunder a piece. Usually another blunder follows as a result of the ire

Harvey_Wallbanger

If I sat across from you and had access to a fly swatter...

I-AM-YOUR-GRANDPA

i am the master of flagging. I have no clue of chess but its fun.

TheRealGMBobbyFish
Harvey_Wallbanger wrote:

   For you, it's not a "big deal". For others (including me), it is a big deal.

   As you get higher up in the food chain, players are just as aggressive but are more polished and far more civil.

Yeah, these two will probaby be a lot more civil once they move a ways up the food chain:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY27lgnPKWI

Dodger111

Here's the rules concerning asking for a resignation: 

Don't do it, unless you are playing a child and he could learn more by starting a new game. 

Harvey_Wallbanger
TheRealGMBobbyFish wrote: Yeah, these two will probaby be a lot more civil once they move a ways up the food chain:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY27lgnPKWI

    Maybe it's my hearing, but I don't seem to hear a lot of smack talk.

TheRealGMBobbyFish
Harvey_Wallbanger wrote:
TheRealGMBobbyFish wrote: Yeah, these two will probaby be a lot more civil once they move a ways up the food chain:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY27lgnPKWI

    Maybe it's my hearing, but I don't seem to hear a lot of smack talk.

"too weak to slow."  anyway, it is what I meant.  Not representative of the fragie egos here. 

Harvey_Wallbanger

   Chess is a pugilistic game for paper tigers.  But, you see, it is also a "gentleman's game". There's no place for bullying or smack talk during chess.

Chicken_Monster

Thanks for posting Too Weak, Too Slow. I didn't feel badly about my ability before viewing. Now I quit this game.