The Ethics of Chess

Most certainly there are known etiquetts in chess.  But looking at and honoring those ethics is paramount to even associate yourself with this game.  A honest match is what this conversation is all about.  The beauty of using your own thinking process to determine the outcome of a chess match is a feeling that can only be described by the person playing the game.  Now I know that sometimes we can notice flaws in computer programs that can cause glitches in matchplay, yet I sometimes wonder if it were possible for other elements to be involved in the game that should not be there.

From time to time I feel myself seeing strong evidence of too many conflicting circumstances.  It really is a big let down if these suspicions are right.  So I want to put this in the universe!  If anyone has any morals or principles about themselves that are involved with these chess games, then be real and not dishonest.  Make the games fair and stop the cheaters or manipulators from tainting the integrity of the game.  I guess people with no real talent are the only ones being deceptive.  It is sad to think that by cheating or manipulating a chess game that they are doing something cool.

It is wrong prevent a person from playing a honest game with outside interference causing manipulation of a chess match.  This is a disgrace against what chess is all about and there is a strong lack of integrity in those involved.

Only a liar lives with a false sense of pride.  A real person just respects integrity and does what is right about the game of chess.  I am not mentioning this because of sour grapes, I am doing this to point out the neccessity of maintaining the proper ethical standards of fair play in a fair game!!!

please use paragraphs and avoid multiple exclamation marks when you're talking about etiquette.

I can appeciate the constructive critisism of Noir_Desir in suggesting proper paragraph ascertation, However, it is the writer right to use expression as one sees fit to emphasize a point of thought in doing so.

Certainly an astute person as yourself can appreciate freedom of expression.  I since that you were listening to the grammar instead of the message and perhaps you might reflect on the content of the message as well. Integrity goes well beyond looking at the small minded things and searching for the big picture.

I read the original post last night. Reading through it, I couldn't ascertain what exactly you were getting at other than you feel that people cheat. You didn't really clarify what you consider cheating; other than the obvious engine usage. That said, discussions of cheating really belong in the cheating topic/thread.

The ethics of chess are pretty clear for this site. Engine use and outside help (other than things like books and games databases in correspondence) are not allowed. If someone is cheating, they will most likely be caught and can be reported.

On the comment about message format, it helps with clarity and understanding. Some people are likely to ignore one long paragraph and thus any discussion you hoped to have on it will leave out a number of those people. It really isn't an issue on freedom of expression. Of course you are free to write in whatever format you wish.

Report it to the Federation Internationale Des Ethics.

 Yeah, I didn't read it.

I agree with you bigcook, I for one enjoy the game and will play anyone. It is sad when I notice the moves are not what would normally come from the level of the player that is playing. I am thankful this does not happen often on chess.com.

Ok. Now allow me to express my feeling of complete apathy for a long rant that was constructed purely for the pleasure of the writer.

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To ivanh let me say this in all true sincerity.  You probably missed the boat.  Because I can see by your comments that you only focus on the narrow thinking of your mind instead of on the full projection of the message be presented.  It is no pleasure to me to rant or rave on a issue that I consider to be of significance.

However, we are all entitled to our own opinions.  Unfortunately, some opinions are full of self indulgement and serve no true purpose.  Please focus on the message and not the messenger would be the best advice I could offer a intelligent person such as you!!!

Nice edits; much more readable. That said, what do you mean by outside interference? Are you just talking about engine use?

I really do not have a solid clue to what is causing these manipulative problems during a chess match.  All I know is that I see the clock ticking during a game and then the time is reversed on my opponents adding time to their playing time in increments of seconds and even whole minutes being given back in some cases. Also, I have witnessed my time clock speeding up much faster than my opponents.

Most often during a intense match, with only crucials seconds left to play, this is when the funny acting clock stuff happens with the time being added back on my oppents time clock.  And some people even had the gall to give me explanations about time interval during a match.  I play only fixed time period.

It seems that during the game's end and you sense you are winning then this freaky stuff starts happening.

Now, that makes it much clearer. One of the most likely causes of what you are seeing is lag and how Chess.com handles lag. The method seems to have changed somewhat from the last time I looked at it though, so depending on exactly what you were seeing, that may not be the complete story.

Last week there was a clock problem, that has since been fixed (according to that topic). If your post was inspired by some games when the clock was having issues, then that might be all it was. Or if it was just smaller amounts, then it is very likely related to lag compensation.

I play chess in my attic

Let me quote the cheating FAQ's for you:

What do we recommend that you do/think about cheating?
Forget about it! We are here to worry about the issue for you so that you can focus on enjoying chess. If you are under 2200 then you should never even think about it - it shouldn't affect you.

In reviewing the comments and replies to the topic of of Ethic in Chess, I find that the stimulation of augmenting a particular point of interest gives us (Those that are concerned) insight into what other people think or how they respond to issues of pertinence. Iwish to thank the truly concerned and focused responses.

To the responders that only had sarcastic remarks to share, it is sad that a person that is playing a thinking game, can not apply that to their personal life.  It is pathetic to act like you are saying something smart when you only can give unintelligent responses. Or your momma did not raise you right!!!

Is it possible for someone to review a game I played in tournament play and see the time between moves?  It was almost 6 days before my opponent moved and then when i made my next move, my opponents move was instantaneous.  I didnt think much about it because i was playing other games but when i paid more attention, i realized that it was as though a computer was making the next move.  No "human" ive ever played online could process the next move that fast. 

Dear Mr. Mastermic, I agree with you whole heartedly. There is one thing I would like to say  "That Chess.com is the best chess web site in the cyber world".  The format is great and the style of programs unquestionable.

Yet this computer glitch in regards to lag or whatever is causing the problems with the timing of the match play, must be resolved to reflect the actual truth of time.

No one should have a unfair advantage nor should it appear that the game is being manipulated by no means what so ever. So My quest is to have people focus on the problem and seek resolution to remedy it period.

ricmastermic, more than likely all they did was preset their moves in case you made certain moves. It is conditional moves.

Thanks for the reply.  I just discovered that function of chess.com the other day and thought "how cool!"  you could just analize an endless different ways you think the game will play out and preset the moves.  I'm definitely looking forward to trying it.