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what's the main difference between a 1300 and a 1800 player?


  • 5 days ago · Quote · #421

    JamesRossAllison

    Patience... I didn't think of that, mnshr!Smile

  • 5 days ago · Quote · #422

    bobbymac310

    Most players make good moves most of the time, then make a mistake. The level and frequency of those mistakes is the difference in most ratings. 

  • 5 days ago · Quote · #423

    Robert0905

    !800's have better understanding of the position.

  • 4 days ago · Quote · #424

    ParadoxOfNone

    bobbymac310 wrote:

    Most players make good moves most of the time, then make a mistake. The level and frequency of those mistakes is the difference in most ratings. 

    I think you are right to a point but, I am not 1800 and I remember being 1300. I would crush my former self easily, nearly every time. I have learned so much since then, in every facet of the game. For me they are nearly like night and day. If you were comparing a 1600- 2100, I think it is a better comparison to what you are saying. A 1300 is too close to being nearly a complete beginner in my opinion. I realize it takes some people longer than others to get to 1300 but, from starting at 1200, I tend to think most people interested in this reach 1300 fast.

  • 4 days ago · Quote · #425

    Jimmykay

    bobbymac310 wrote:

    Most players make good moves most of the time, then make a mistake. The level and frequency of those mistakes is the difference in most ratings. 

    You are noting the symptom, not the cause.

    The REASON behind these mistakes is not simply blundering. It goes back to what NM Reb said...it is about understanding.

  • 3 days ago · Quote · #426

    Robert0905

    I agree

  • 3 days ago · Quote · #427

    Parodyst1

    *nods*

  • 3 days ago · Quote · #428

    DjonniDerevnja

    About understanding. I guess 1800 understands that loose pieces drops off better than the 1300 does.

  • 3 days ago · Quote · #429

    ParadoxOfNone

    I think things like...

    *being able to execute basic tactics versus intermediate to advanced tactics

    *understanding where to put your pieces when you open and where not to

    *not trading good pieces for bad ones

    *knowing when and when not to sacrifice

    *the understanding of the value of pieces in various positions and how they can vary as the positions can and or will change

    *knowing when you are ahead, drawn or losing, despite material, time,  and or positional imbalances

    *often the weaker players can't coordinate their pieces and especially are lost without the queen

    * understanding of pawn structures from openings, when their preferred opening isn't played

    ...are all some big differences I see between the two...

  • 22 hours ago · Quote · #430

    Robert0905

     also, 1300 frequentlt do not know theory

  • 20 hours ago · Quote · #431

    SmyslovFan

    Robert0905 wrote:

    " also, 1300 frequentlt do not know theory"

    In my experience 1300s can often recite line after line of "theory". Many of these can correctly name almost any opening.

  • 20 hours ago · Quote · #432

    XPLAYERJX

    SmyslovFan wrote:

    Robert0905 wrote:

    " also, 1300 frequentlt do not know theory"

    In my experience 1300s can often recite line after line of "theory". Many of these can correctly name almost any opening.

    LOL I agree with you. Many of them know all the book moves as well. The problem is if you ask them why it is a book move or a play a move that isn't a book move against them. They look like a deer in head lights with that shocked facial expression like "well I don't know what to do now."

  • 20 hours ago · Quote · #433

    ChezBoy

    500 points....

  • 17 hours ago · Quote · #434

    MrKornKid

    ParadoxOfNone wrote:

    *not trading good pieces for bad ones

    I probably still don't have that down but it took me a year or more of casual chess play here to understand what a good piece vs bad piece is.  Thats a hard concept, for me anyway.


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