CLASSIC CHESS PROBLEM

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mxdplay4
Can you post your problems with the solution please.
GINOPFRITZ
benws wrote: 1. bxc8=N? i have no idea.

 bxc8=Q is one of the possible second moves. At first, just a hint. Next try.


erik
just FYI - people have little tolerance for puzzles submitted without solutions :)
GINOPFRITZ
erik wrote: just FYI - people have little tolerance for puzzles submitted without solutions :)

 just FY too! first move= c5.


orejano

1. bxc8=N!!

The king can't move and is in zugzwang. Balck will move anything and then 2.Nf8#











GINOPFRITZ
orejano wrote:

1. bxc8=N!!

The king can't move and is in zugzwang. Balck will move anything and then 2.Nf8#

 











 Bc5 instead of Nc3


orejano
GINOPFRITZ wrote: orejano wrote:

1. bxc8=N!!

The king can't move and is in zugzwang. Balck will move anything and then 2.Nf8#

 











 Bc5 instead of Nc3


 Missed that one Cool

 So 1.c5 If 1...Bxc5 then 2.bxc8=Q and mate will follow, if 1...Nxc5 or 1...Rxc5 then 2.bxc8=N and mate will follow.


x-5058622868

1. bxa8=N threatening Nxc7#

 1. ... Rc5

2. Nf8#

What am i missing? 


orejano
Nxc7 is not mate because of the Knight on a8.
x-5058622868
Ok, missed Ke7
Loomis

Sunshiny, 2. Nf8 isn't mate in your line.

 

1. c5

a) 1. ... Bxc5 2. bxa8=N threatening Nxf7

b) 1. ... Rxc5 2. bxc8=N threatening Nf8

I have some trouble with 1. ... Nxc5 because black is threatening Nxe4 making some free squares for his king.


orejano

1.c5

If 1...Bxc5 then 2.bxc8=Q and 3.Qxd7 is unstoppable

if 1...Nxc5 or 1...Rxc5 then 2.bxc8=N and 3.Nf8# is unstoppable.


x-5058622868
I didn't notice c5 was the 1st move. I'm now one step closer to solving this with that info Wink
GINOPFRITZ
Loomis wrote:

Sunshiny, 2. Nf8 isn't mate in your line.

 

1. c5

a) 1. ... Bxc5 2. bxa8=N threatening Nxf7

b) 1. ... Rxc5 2. bxc8=N threatening Nf8

I have some trouble with 1. ... Nxc5 because black is threatening Nxe4 making some free squares for his king.


 Thre's a lot of variation in the second move. Reason why I did'nt post the moves. But the key move is c5. just find the sequence.


x-5058622868
orejano wrote:

1.c5

If 1...Bxc5 then 2.bxc8=Q and 3.Qxd7 is unstoppable

if 1...Nxc5 or 1...Rxc5 then 2.bxc8=N and 3.Nf8# is unstoppable.


 Yes, i just came to that conclusion.

Oops, just noticed Loomis mentioned the problem with Nxe4.
x-5058622868

If 1. ... Nxc5 then

2. Nxa8=N Nxe4

3. Naxc7# 


orejano
Sunshiny wrote: orejano wrote:

1.c5

If 1...Bxc5 then 2.bxc8=Q and 3.Qxd7 is unstoppable

if 1...Nxc5 or 1...Rxc5 then 2.bxc8=N and 3.Nf8# is unstoppable.


 Yes, i just came to that conclusion.

Oops, just noticed Loomis mentioned the problem with Nxe4.

1.c5 Nxc5 2.bxc8=Q Nxe4 3.Qxd7#

1.c5 Rxc5 2.bxc8=N Nc3 3.Nf8#

1.c5 Bxc5 2.bxc8=Q Nc3 3.Qxd7# 


x-5058622868
orejano wrote: Sunshiny wrote: orejano wrote:

1.c5

If 1...Bxc5 then 2.bxc8=Q and 3.Qxd7 is unstoppable

if 1...Nxc5 or 1...Rxc5 then 2.bxc8=N and 3.Nf8# is unstoppable.


 Yes, i just came to that conclusion.

Oops, just noticed Loomis mentioned the problem with Nxe4.

1.c5 Nxc5 2.bxc8=Q Nxe4 3.Qxd7#

1.c5 Rxc5 2.bxc8=N Nc3 3.Nf8#

1.c5 Bxc5 2.bxc8=Q Nc3 3.Qxd7# 


 Yes, i think this means i've done enough puzzles for now. (I really shouldn't have missed seeing the queen cover that spot.)

What if the knight stays on c5 for the second move? I think my solution fits better. 


Loomis

1. c5 Nxc5 2. bxc8=Q and black should just leave the knight on c5 since it defends d7. I don't see a checkmate after 2. ... Ra5.

 

But this line I like. 1. c5 Nxc5 2. bxa8=B and now the Bishop on a8 covers d5 so Nxe4 is not a problem and Nxf7 is coming.