ZIgy : that's right 840
I remember people sayin' 1793 :
"Republic doen't need scientific people" it was for sending great chemist LAVOISIER to cut his head. Two months later, those republicans died !
So it goes, before sayin' someone don't need something, just ask if it is not your ex-wife saying "my husband don't need our children" the price to pay is not the same.
I miss nothing , but with the age I learned that because exist darwin exist other too. Good needs bad, clever need moron, Starsky needs ...., Laurel needs ....? hardly believible, isnt'it ?
It is Zen approach, reconciliating all people for eternity around an immense camp fire, Zarathustra discussing with Buddha, Fuji-Yama with no lava.
When fishing, bring me TROUTFISH, please. It's my engine, TROUTFISH 2.0 is out of date, unfortunately.
The materialists seem so defensive, don't they Lovey Dovey ? They're obviously down a flank pawn without a meaningful endgame plan....
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Question to the atheists....why do you wanna debate the god question so much? You come across as a bit overwhelmed to the point of confuzed. Ask yourselves why.
....just my observation.
"Question to the atheists....why do you wanna debate the god question so much? You come across as a bit overwhelmed to the point of confuzed. Ask yourselves why."
Why?...to convince themselves that their arguements have a modicum of credibility...shout longer your logic is weak!
"Question to the atheists....why do you wanna debate the god question so much? You come across as a bit overwhelmed to the point of confuzed. Ask yourselves why."
Why?...to convince themselves that their arguements have a modicum of credibility...shout longer your logic is weak!
Except you can't show us where we are wrong!
Lola's take on the matter is probably "Atheism lack creativity." I fear she might start a forum about it...
The materialists seem so defensive, don't they Lovey Dovey ? They're obviously down a flank pawn without a meaningful endgame plan........
Question to the atheists....why do you wanna debate the god question so much? You come across as a bit overwhelmed to the point of confuzed. Ask yourselves why.
....just my observation.
Why? Because its entertainment. Where else can you find people willing to say stupid things in order to keep from believing something so simple???
Imagine trying to prove that car tires can roll. Creationists will say that they don't roll because they are black........or something crazy like that.
they CANT understand evolution because of fear of getting punished, so they have to do everything they can to keep from understanding.........even bordering on looking dumb! LOL
I don't think that religious people are "dumb." They just have a different outlook on life. A creator seems much more logical than the universe coming about by chance. How did the first speck of dust come into existence? The existence of a deity is a much simpler explanation, and by calling humans imperfect, they explain why we can't fathom certain things as a creator who has always existed.
I agree with everybody this question is really important since 5000 years. Just to help, we may use this book :
A Brief History of Time: From the Big Bang to Black Holes
STEPHAN HAWKING, very easy to read and deep and explaining lotta things too.
AH ! One thing more, it doesn't explain who came first, hen or egg.
In ZEN we call that a KUAN, a paradox :explaining big concept,with or without big mathematic tools and NOT explaining a elementary question. egg? hen? first ?
That is the point with atheism, with religious people too : they say miracles, or mysteries, it depends.
So it goes, mankind and man's brain are unachieved, like a famous symphony. On those threads we feel closer to an achievement, a search of excellency.
I don't think that religious people are "dumb." They just have a different outlook on life. A creator seems much more logical than the universe coming about by chance. How did the first speck of dust come into existence? The existence of a deity is a much simpler explanation, and by calling humans imperfect, they explain why we can't fathom certain things as a creator who has always existed.
We don't know how the speck of dust came into existence............so did it come into existence naturally or supernaturally??
Well, we have evidence of natural processes creating things, but we have no evidence of anything supernatural. Not 1 thing.
So its not only illogical, but quite stupid, to keep believing in supernatural despite many people pointing out that there is no evidence for supernatural processes. NONE!
do atheists not realize how dumb it is to totally dismiss something they have failed to discover with their precious science ? go Lola! kick ass and bust them heads!
Well what should we believe about what we cannot discover? How big is it? What does it do? How much does it weigh? What properties does it have?
How did IT get here? Where did IT come from?
Come on, don't be shy. Please tell us what we should believe about what we cannot or have not discovered.
do atheists not realize how dumb it is to totally dismiss something they have failed to discover with their precious science ? go Lola! kick ass and bust them heads!
You have defined the definition between critics and sheep very well. :D
do atheists not realize how dumb it is to totally dismiss something they have failed to discover with their precious science ? go Lola! kick ass and bust them heads!
Actually, you are wrong, but I don't expect you to understand. In fact, you CANT understand no matter how hard you try.
You see, the reason we can logically dismiss something that we have failed to discover is because...............well, we haven't discovered it yet and there is no way to know anything about something you have never discovered, tested, measured, weighed, etc.
Now, the question remains if you can see where and how you are wrong. My guess is that you can't, but let's see. LOL
if you don't know you just don't know. you can try to find out.
So there is this atheist sitting alone in a dark room.
Someone opens the door and turns on the light.
Atheist screams "turn off that freaking light!! yer blinding me ya big ejit!"
But you didn't tell me what we should believe about this thing we haven't discovered?
I wonder why you CANT? LOL
if you don't know you just don't know. you can try to find out.
So there is this atheist sitting alone in a dark room.
Someone opens the door and turns on the light.
Atheist screams "turn off that freaking light!! yer blinding me ya big ejit!"
It's an amusing image! 
But false. You have not turned on any light, or given us any evidence for your drastic claim.
Blinded by the light!
Revved up like a douche another runner in the night.
So what does this thing we have not discovered do??? How much does it weigh? Does it fly or walk or crawl or swim? Does it live on land or in water or in the air?
come on. Im wondering why you are having a hard time with this one? LOL
yes, between critics and sheep we find shears and scissors
try to make coherent sentences instead of ranting like a lunatic.
I might even discuss with you after you've had your meds.
Try again! LOL!
I knew you couldn't tell us what we should believe about this thing that we have not discovered.
this is why talking to religious people is so entertaining. They say the dumbest things! LOL
in the mind of some people, bang wihtout big is not possible, the only reason they called it the big bang. how could we know how big it was ? more like a fart?