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satorichess

People who don't finish a game without resignation should be put a red flag on his/her homepage. After 2 flag you start getting some penalty, in terms of time playin or whatever after 10 red flag you should be definitely banned. This is getting worse and someone here should put some serious rule. I'm not talking about blitz bat from rapid on this is a serius problem and this is mt proposal.

satorichess

PS needless to say I'm not talking about people with 30 sec or even one minute left, we don't care about that much, I'm talking about 10 minutes without a move on a 15/10 game fo example and that's bad, just to make clear.

chessbond001

satorichess, i guess in live chess if there is no move since 10 minutes in 15/10 min game then the game is forfeited  . i have never faced such a situation till now while palying 15/10 min games. or i guess i have to play more games.

sammynouri

Why do you care? Just be patient and wait it out. They eventually receive a penalty if they repeat this, and there are people who have glitches and internet connection problems, that includes me. Intentionally leaving a game enough times gets you a restriction for a temporary amount of time, I think that's good enough.

satorichess

Sammynouri I don't agree. Even to make me wait 10 minutes of my life is a kind of abuse,(I'm talking about intentionally leaving a game, here a classic ex, you are in office and start a game then someone come and engaged you with some work, in this case you should resign, it's your problem if you decide to make games while you are working) but what about if I decide to play more longer games? Like 30 min or even longer? The problem is real and need to be solved, I want people to come out with possible solution here. (I offered some already) Thanks

satorichess

Please don't make mistake between a disconnection (which the computer deal automatically excludiong you after a couple of minutes) I'm talking about a game an open one whithout connection failure but intentionally left open without making any moves by one of the 2 side, in a rated contest. (if I close connection I loose points,and the bastard on the other side is exactly hoping for this, If I stay I have points but loose lot of my time, beware I can't play any other game in the meanwhile on chess come because my account is detected as on) I hope I'm clear now. thank you

AnastasiaStyles
satorichess wrote:

I'm talking about intentionally leaving a game, here a classic ex, you are in office and start a game then someone come and engaged you with some work, in this case you should resign, it's your problem if you decide to make games while you are working)

Your opponent's clock is his to use however he wants.

If he wants to make a move, then pick his nose for ten minutes (it works for Ivanchuk) before moving again, that's his call. It's then his problem if he gets into time trouble.

AnastasiaStyles
satorichess wrote:

I'm talking about a game an open one whithout connection failure but intentionally left open without making any moves by one of the 2 side, in a rated contest.

In such circumstances, there is already a fix; the game is soon auto-aborted by the server if one side has not made any move in the game - I'm not sure what the timer is for this, but it's less than a minute; maybe 30 seconds - quite annoying, actually, I've had it happen a few times when I go to play a game with a friend, and either face connection issues or happen to be typing something in the chatbox.

satorichess

These are the rules, but what about the sportmanship and fair play? You have your time to think but if computer detect you have not made a move after let's say move 3 in a 15 minutes game or as long as 10 minutes concluding the game with my victory as a time control runs out. Then you should get a red flag and get some points or time or whatever shortage. This is necessary because here we are not playing OTT chess and your intention are not evident until the very end. But nonetheless in the end they are, and computer can detect this, and above all shows that in your home page ( maybe people can decide to not play with you if you have so many red flag, can I have the right to decide who my opponent is? and what his "trust rating" or sportmanship rating, or fair play rating however you may call it, is?)

satorichess

I'm talking about a game an open one whithout connection failure but intentionally left open without making any moves by one of the 2 side, in a rated contest. After 2 or 3 moves has already happened. 

Maybe is more clear now? I hope so

BeanBandit

What good is banning people going to do?  Habitual abusers will just create new accounts.

I must admit I left chess.com the other night after trying to castle and I couldn't (and I wasn't in check.)  I felt bad but the castling screw-up put me in a bad position.

Roberts536

BeanBandit, you can't castle through check either, i.e. if an enemy piece attacks a square inbetween king and rook, perhaps that was the problem?

 

Satorichess, I agree that it's annoying but I don't think there is an effective and worthwile thing anyone can do to stop it. Perhaps a banner below the game screen reminding players of chess etiquette would be the best we could do here.

Irontiger

DavidStyles, he is not talking about legitimate time use, but when people stop even looking at the game, deciding to use their time to waste their opponent's. Yes, there are cases where it is obvious.

 

But what does it change to the matter ? There are jerks everywhere, learn to cope with them. The fair play policy is already a rather strict thing compared to what you will find on other sites.

Moreover, if you agree to a X min game, then you commit yourself for the next 2X minutes : you cannot say that your boss is coming in just because the opponent stalled the game, if the game had been hard-fought the boss will have entered the room at the same point.

RickRenegade
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SocialPanda
aerodarts wrote:
 Mine is playing someone who makes great moves and they are rated 1300 to 1500! No doubt they are using a program to cheat with. 

 


If they are using an engine to cheat, why are they rated 1300-1500?

waffllemaster

Just wanted to say, people who don't finish a game without resignation are people who finish their games be resigning.

satorichess

So I read many of the comments they go from "what do you care, pece love and happiness, to you are right we must do something about it"

My idea is very simple and I know the world is full of a******s that's why I'm only asking for a red flag to let me know if I'm dealing with an a******. What's wrong with this?.....I just want to know that you are an a****** and I don't want to waste my time with you is just as simple as that. For computers nowdays it would be just an easy task to detect this kind of behaviour and to put the red flag on. You change/create a new account? then you better stick to that rules or the flags are just coming anyway!!!! I mean chess has rules and the world must have it more or less the same way expecially the web where people (and idiots) can hide themeselves behind a screen. If Chess com don't do this is just because they fear to loose numbers.........but great sites don't care only about numbers bur quality it's the magic word, thimk about this

Rsava
satorichess wrote:

So I read many of the comments they go from "what do you care, pece love and happiness, to you are right we must do something about it"

My idea is very simple and I know the world is full of **** that's why I'm only asking for a red flag to let me know if I'm dealing with an ****. What's wrong with this.....I just want to know that you are an *** and I don't want to waste my time with you is just as simple as that. For computers nowdays it would be just an easy task to detect this kind of behaviour and to put the red flag on. You change/create a new account? then you better stick to that rules or the flags are just coming anyway? I mean chess has rules and the world must have it more or less the same way expecially the web where people (and idiots) can hide themeselves behind a screen. If Chess com don't do this is just because they fear to loose numbers.........but great sites don't care only about numbers bur quality it's the magic word, thimk about this

First, do you really need to use the language? Is that really the only way to get your point across?

Second, what if they have issues with their internet and suddenly they have this red flag. It really isn't that they don't care, it is that they had issues. And what if the same happens to you, I bet you would then come back and scream about how it is unfair that you got banned.

I don't play a lot of live games becasue if this, maybe that should be your solution.

upen2002

I don't agree

grimshanky
waffllemaster wrote:

Just wanted to say, people who don't finish a game without resignation are people who finish their games be resigning.

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