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eehc
thomasglass a écrit :

canada is doomed as a unit.

That's what they said in the 1880's when a flood of immigrants coming from England, France, Scotland, Ireland, Germany, Switzerland, Ukraine, Russia, India ect. came here seeking opportunities for a new life and yet Canada stood strong for it has adapted by managing to create a coherent and inclusive structure. We have felt the tug of the United States more than once in our history yet we remain faithful to the red maple leaf flag. You don't seem to realize that Canada was built on diversity, that's the core of the unit. Languages such as English, French, Punjabi, Aboriginal tongues are all part of this country.

The_Ghostess_Lola

....canada is doomed as a unit.

Ohhh pleeeez. You trolling jackazz....

colinsaul
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Rickett2222
goldendog wrote:

pronounced cue-beck.

Not quite if you want to say it as a French Québécois which I am, one would say Qué as in the Italian song Que sera so Que beck.If you know the word quai in French( a dock in English) then you have a perfect pronounciation.

If you pronounce it as a Québec English born person living in Québec a closer English pronounciation would be Quobeck.

But again everyone has their own pronounciation of any country or city around the world and some are actually very funny.

My suggestions are with a pronounciation from the people of the land as we say.

Rickett2222

Of interest the Cnadian National anthem "O Canada" was written by Calixa Lavallée in1880 as requested by the Governor General at the time.

The opening theme of "O Canada" bears a strong resemblance to the "March of the Priests" from the opera The Magic Flute composed in 1791 by Mozart. 

Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQIwS0rHbys

Rickett2222

I personally have no objections to show no flags or multiple country flags  as some people do have more than one citizenship.

I also approve of individual flags for any community, person or nation in the world, whether they be independant or not and as well approve of made up flags to represent yourself as long as the flag respects rules of courtesy leaving the taboo items out such as: religion, sex affiliation, racism, politics, unions and any sort of propaganda intended.

Are we not in a free country?

eehc

Yep but it only servers to confuse to have multiple sorts of flags on a website like chess.com. It's easier to stick with country flags, just like the Olympics where we can distinguish from which country players are coming from.

Caronag
Rickett2222 wrote:

I personally have no objections to show no flags or multiple country flags  as some people do have more than one citizenship.

I also approve of individual flags for any community, person or nation in the world, whether they be independant or not and as well approve of made up flags to represent yourself as long as the flag respects rules of courtesy leaving the taboo items out such as: religion, sex affiliation, racism, politics, unions and any sort of propaganda intended.

Are we not in a free country?

Thank you, that is really what I had in mind by asking about the flag.

garignon

@rickett2222 that's sounds good to me

ClavierCavalier
Rickett2222 wrote:

Are we not in a free country?

No.  Chess.com is a privately owned business.

ivandh

Speak for yourself, I am in... I don't even remember what country right now.

The_Ghostess_Lola

Let me help you then. You are somewhere between a flock of penguins and the Titanic's gravesite.

Rickett2222
ClavierCavalier wrote:
Rickett2222 wrote:

Are we not in a free country?

No.  Chess.com is a privately owned business.

Not sure what chess.com has to do with a privately owned business that does try to impose flags as you say.

ClavierCavalier can you expand on private owned business in the USA, which is what their hands are on country flags around the world?

I just cannot follow your thought of mind.
Do you mean that chess.com can impose flags? As they do to a point by allowing an international country flag which does not exist at all?

And since chess.com allows a flag that does not exist why not allow a flag that is representative of one’s own conviction.

Logic, logic!

Are you a representative of chess.com by any chance and if so reread my paragraph above where you allow an international non-existing flag.

Bottom line what is your objection to a private flag as long as it respects all of the rules of politeness, civility, courtesy and where my limit of expression stops to not impinge on my fellows rights. As long as my personal flag does not engage in religious, labor unions, politically engaged groups, a platform for any kind of propaganda, racism or sex affiliation. What is your objection as an all mighty American?

Even in the USA freedom of speech or expression is protected by the First Amendment baring a few exception dealing with child prostitution, obscenities,  etc. Why do you think this is the very 1st , I repeat the very first amendment in the USA constitution?

By God are you the new President of the USA of America where you can dictate your own rules here without Senate approval?

Why not ask Barack Obama for his opinion on this issue and if you are not satisfied ask any past President or the new one in 2 years from now.

Possibly you miss understood me when I said are we not in a free country?

In Canada we are and I now really wonder about the USA  if this country follows your thought pattern.

Yes you have reigned for many years to try to control the world’s issues. In some cases you have won the battle the most important one is perhaps the one that gave the USA their own ownership and it was The American revolution back in the 1780 era.
The Vietnam war was lost at great losses to human lives and so is the Afghanistan war.

Never forget that in spite of today’s American technology is the China pawn in the equation.
China has 1.4 billion people or 19% of world population next follows India with 1.3 billions or 17.5 % and third is USA with 300 million or 4.4%. Does these numbers not scare you, well they do scare me as China and India will rule the world one day soon say in max 100 years from now and it will not matter what your opinion on a dedicate flag is, believe you me.

ClavierCavalier

It is very simple.  The answer to your question is that chess.com isn't a country, nor is it free.  It is a privately owned cyber business.  The owners can impose any rules they see fit.  Since it is their data, they can decide whether to include or disclude any flag on their system.  This is similar to their rules that go against the freedoms we Americans would refer to as the press and religion since certain topics of discussion are banned.  Forcing them to accept the Québec flag would infringe upon their rights.  Upon joining the site, one agrees to follow their rules and waive any right that contradicts these.  If one disagrees with this, they can freely leave chess.com.

They do not impose flags on their users.  There are many people with "International" as their reigon.  This means one can choose not to use a flag.  As a private business, they can choose to ignore your convictions.  By agreeing to the terms of their website, you have chosen to do so as well.

The Québec flag is engaged with a political group.  This whole discussion demonstrates this as a political issue in Canada.

The freedoms of the first amendment apply to thethe public and not to the private.  The government can't stop one from expressing their views, but one is allowed to stop others from doing so on their property.  I do not have to let people assemble on my lawn to use their freedom of speech to protest.  Doing so is tresspassing.  As a side note, as this is written communication, it is the freedom of the press, not freedom of speech.

President of the United States doesn't have authority over chess.com as it is a private business.  This applies to President Obama, as well as to the past and future presidents.  This only becomes an issue for the government if chess.com violates the laws of whichever country it resides.

If your comment about being a free country was about Canada, then the answer is that Canada is a free country.  The problem is that this chess.com, not Canada.  Canada is a country owned by the House of Windsor.  Chess.com is a privately owned business and have the right to conduct their business an any legal means which they see fit.

Many Americans jump to conclusions and draw large falsehoods to fuel large rants from simple statements such as "No.  Chess.com is a privately owned business."  I now wonder what is going on with my fellow Canadians if this country now follows your thought pattern.

I haven't reigned for any years on any world issue.  As to the rest of your comment, I fail to see how a loose grasp on American history impacts the fact that chess.com is a privately owned business and can do what they want with their own property.

Rickett2222

American history is all about retaliation and control

ClavierCavalier

The rest of history is not?  Longest standing neutral country is Switzerland, which became so after it was re-established during the first exile of Napoleon I.

The_Ghostess_Lola
Rickett2222 wrote:

American history is all about retaliation and control

Pleez say US History. Canadiennes are American too.

johnmusacha

@Clavier:  You've really come a long way in your political sophistication and knowledge.  I'm really proud of you.  I don't mean to sound condescending just in case anyone reads it like that.  It's really great to see young people maturing and becoming more sophisticated right before our eyes.  Benefits of higher education and all that.

garignon

If you dont know :
The British determined that the Royal Proclamation, 1763 was inapplicable to the circumstances of the colony, and in particular, to its Catholic (quebec) population. Further, it became clear the anticipated large influx of British settlers was unlikely to occur, and that Quebec’s population would, for the foreseeable future, remain both French and Roman Catholic. The Quebec Act was passed in an effort to curb French discontent toward the British and ensure citizen loyalty, or at least neutrality, in the event of hostility between England and the Thirteen Colonies. 

 

 

 

Constitution Act, 1982
quebec had two main reasons for not signing the agreement which brought the Canadian constitution: A constitution is the system of fundamental principles according to which a nation, state or group is governed.constitution home. With the new amending formula Quebec lost its veto: the right or power to forbid or reject; to refuse to consent to.veto over future constitutional change. Until then, Quebec or Ontario or a majority of Western or Maritime provinces could prevent any constitutional changes they didn't agree with.

Another reason Quebec wouldn't sign was a clause in the Charter of Rights which guaranteed minority language rights "where numbers warrant." This would have meant the end of Quebec's Bill 101 by protecting English language rights in Quebec (while at the same time protecting French language rights in the rest of Canada).

 

Just to be clear. Quebec never sign to be a parts of Canada. They forced us

Rickett2222
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
Rickett2222 wrote:

American history is all about retaliation and control

Pleez say US History. Canadiennes are American too.

Pleez say US History. Canadiennes are American too.

Well thank you I should have been more specific perhaps but it is obvious to most people that the last 3 exchanges are between ClavierCavalier and me who is from the USA.

Pleeze as you say sounds like you are begging.

And there is no other country in America not even Brazil with a large population of 200 million people that has any near the USA power and control on the world, not that I am against it just a fact.
Canadiennes (female word) are American (you omitted the s) too. I am sure that they are so are the men living in the same country called Canada and they are Canadians.