Thank you for your quick reply. Here's the link
http://www.chess.com/tournaments/pairings?id=97818&round=2
How do I contact staff?
(I thought staff was a contagious infection.)
Questionable Scoring In Alapin Tournament
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Update. One of the scoring errors Group2 Round 2 was corrected(21.5pts. to 11pts.), possibly when the leader finished a game and the totals were updated. I am not holding out with any hope that the other error will be righted seeing as the other player has completed all his games.
How do you score 16.5 points out of a possible 14?
How does 4.5 points advance over 8.5?
Dear yorgovernor,
This is what I have gleaned, and it makes no sense I am sorry to say. I am going to say that it does explain your problem, why, well that is beyond my scope and I cannot reach the those that may know.
http://chess.about.com/od/chesshistory/a/Scoring-Systems-In-Chess-Tournaments.htm
That is where I started, makes sense. I also searched a ton of forums, Google, Yahoo, Ask, and several written references. Those are the only Three scoring systems I can get an explanation for. Knock yourself out trying to find another, I could not. I then went and looked at your tournament standings and applied the first two to 15 or so players: No jive. As I am tired and have been solving problems for two days straight I did not test the third one that hard; however, I found two that were incorrect and I am taking it until I can explain why. I then got curious and went and checked some of my own tournaments: No jive. Being a ex-engineer the first thing I learnd was if it's fixed, break it, if you can't break it, it's fixed. So I applied that logic and came up with a pattern. The pattern worked, so I tried more, then tried others, then tried random tournament standings and it fits. 1-0-.5 is the pattern. One point for a win, zero for a draw, a half point for a loss. Why, beats me, but it does explain why someone with a worse record could surpass you.
Research more yourself, I will check with the brains, and maybe we can get an answer.
Keven
The brain has spoken. I do not know if he wants his name here so I will just say this. This came from a guy much more knowledgeable and with a much higher rating than I in Chess.
"OK, Scanned all pertinent from the Tourney pages; It's a 'site software glitch/hiccup', they happen; I'd FIRST suggest 'rather then site staff', member message the Tourney Director; Let him 'who no doubt has done 100s of these' based on his records; handle it Tell your friend 'to keep it brief, no long saga, and ON POINT (I saw 'Tourney Pairing' page with different scores ONE incorrect, then one he copy-pasted), a 'BRIEF paragraph or TWO, not a page 'filler', of periferral 'facts', "
A final update: I contacted the TD a second time and, for the second time, he said he has no idea. I contacted the player who received the 12 extra points in round 2 and he said doesn't know anything, understands nothing, plays chess and can't tell me. Round 2 ended. The standings remain in error unchanged. He advanced winning our group with 4 wins 1 draw. I finished 4th in our group with 8 wins 1 draw and did not advance.
Once an enthusiastic and ardent promoter of chess.com, from my 2 ridiculously unfair and absurd experiences in tournaments, I will not recommend the site to anyone again.
Lame.
Obviously, it is a glitch. All I can say is that I have played in over 80 tournaments and have not seen a similar issue in my groups, so I would suggest trying a couple other tournaments before you give up on the site since the issue seems to be rare. In the end its all just a game and there's no money on the line, so while frustrating to be robbed of an advancement, in the end you hopefully enjoyed the games. Think of it like a bad call by a referee in a basketball game. It sucks, but life goes on.
yorgovernor wrote:
A final update: I contacted the TD a second time and, for the second time, he said he has no idea. I contacted the player who received the 12 extra points in round 2 and he said doesn't know anything, understands nothing, plays chess and can't tell me. Round 2 ended. The standings remain in error unchanged. He advanced winning our group with 4 wins 1 draw. I finished 4th in our group with 8 wins 1 draw and did not advance.
Once an enthusiastic and ardent promoter of chess.com, from my 2 ridiculously unfair and absurd experiences in tournaments, I will not recommend the site to anyone again.
Lame.
To be honest with you, youre answer is immature. Because of a glitch, you couldnt advance in a tournamet, so now youre going to not recommend chess.com to anyone? This site isnt here just for you. Sorry it happened, but stuff happens, thats not a reason to burn chess.com
So true. At times I act too quick, petulant and entitled. I am ignorant and selfish but every day I try my best to learn and educate and hopefully enrich others. Coming down on chess.com was misplaced pain and my seeking to blame. The site is here for many people and not just me. There is also many other chess sites for people inclined to solve and fix problems rather than devolve into name calling.
There are literally thousands.
I agree with your opinion that my response was immature. I am completely puzzled by the "to be honest with you part."
Is there an honest mistake? Honest does not make correct or right.
I am currently playing Round 2 of the Alapin tournament.
This is a "No Vacation" tournament!
First of all it has been a fun tournament.
Every day I awake excited to see my opponents latest moves and fall asleep questioning my own.
I placed 2nd in Round 1 (Group 9) with 12 points from 18 games and advanced to Round 2.
Now nearing the end of Round 2, I believe I had played well enough to advance to Round 3 scoring 8.5 points(possibly 9.5) from 14 games.
At least that is the pairings table said two days ago. However, to my great dismay, yesterday the scoring table changed. The scores of two players in my group, and only two, were combined with their Round 1 scores.
C-omedian now has a score of 21.5 instead of 10 and even1 now has a score of 16.5 instead of 4.5.
Out of a possible 14 points in Round 2!
This places C-omedian in 1st place rather than 2nd, which is mute because he still advances (Top 3) but it also places even1 in 3rd place rather than 4th, which keeps me from advancing.
I would like to think if I had only played a little better...but scoring 15 out of a possible 14 is above even my dreams.
Is this a mistake?
Can it be corrected?
I am befuddled and confused by the scoring and disappointed by my own ignorance. (I also fear the anger and destructive rage my stupidity often spawns.)
Can you please explain how the scoring is done so that I may at least learn something here?
Thank you for your time, yorgovernor