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by gxtmfa - 42 days ago
United States
Member Since: Feb 2011
Member Points: 80

Not nearly developed enough to be disregarded as a losing symmetrical variation. It's only the first move of eachplayer! Black has plenty of flexibility. White goes Nimzo-Larsen with 2. b3 and black responds by grabbing the center with d5. White plays d4, Black can still play symmetrically and hope to convert to the Tarrasch Defense.

by joecv123 - 47 days ago
United States
Member Since: Dec 2010
Member Points: 216

I actually like this opening.

by q12money - 4 months ago
rockmart geogia United States
Member Since: May 2011
Member Points: 1

this sucks

by Aquafog - 6 months ago
Somewhere United States
Member Since: Mar 2011
Member Points: 1211

for black

by Aquafog - 6 months ago
Somewhere United States
Member Since: Mar 2011
Member Points: 1211

i use this opening

by hankm - 6 months ago
United States
Member Since: Nov 2009
Member Points: 154

Honestly, as a frequent 1. Nf3 player, I find this reply by black to be the most annoying and the most accurate. I like to maintain complete flexibility, and to retain the ability to steer the game into a queen's pawn opening if I want to. Seemingly logical moves like 1...d5, 1...Nc6, 1...c5, 1...e6, and so on are just way too commital. One might play 1...d5 thinking it is "agressive", and after 2. d4 suddenly find oneself in the middle of a classical queen's gambit position. If one plays something other than the QGD, QGA, or Slav, this can be a big problem. Also, after 1...Nc6 2. d4, black is in a bit of trouble, unless he happens to be a big Chigorin defense fan. Others on this thread have mentioned this point already, but it bears repeating. When facing 1. Nf3, you simply HAVE to keep transpositional possiblities in mind, or you might end up in an entirely unfamiliar position.

by segway123 - 8 months ago
United States
Member Since: Feb 2011
Member Points: 89

This is how I play against 1. nf3 makes white set the pace and you gain the effect of not having to show. White can play queen pawn, english or stay true to the Zukatort with g3 or b3

by nd360 - 9 months ago
United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 7

everybody knows this so obvious

by gm3333 - 11 months ago
pulil;an Philippines
Member Since: Feb 2011
Member Points: 5

non sense

by NICKYBOY216 - 12 months ago
Kuala Lumpur Malaysia
Member Since: Oct 2010
Member Points: 40

....

by Pawn_Gambit - 14 months ago
United States
Member Since: Jul 2010
Member Points: 172

This might be good for some, but I'd opt for d6 or c5 before I would this.

by thegab03 - 16 months ago
on the road to nowhere! Ireland
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 46638

It's a good one, one should not knock it if one knows nought about it, yo!

by boogaloo - 16 months ago
Dayton United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 770

This is the best defense to Nf3.  It forces white to show his hand.  As to the gent who says symmetrical play is breaking principle, I think that only applies to moves after 2 or 3.  By your logic then 1.e4 e5 and 1.d4 d5 would be symmetrical play and therefore breaking principle.

I personally play Nf3 hoping for d5.  It allows c4 the Reti Gambit or standard 'hypermodern' play.  This can quickly take your opponent out of book.  If my opponent plays Nf6 then the ball is in my court and I'm forced to play safer/standard chess.  And the opposite is true for me too, if white plays Nf3 I immediately play Nf6 and see what kind of attack he's going for.  It allows me a move to decide on the right plan.

~boog

by h777 - 16 months ago
Vancouver Canada
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 15916

Only two moves but it is not the shortest opening.

by sclukey - 16 months ago
Arecibo Puerto Rico
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 145

Magicnerd has it right, this is TWO MOVES and I use this all the time, playing a KID formation and I have a pretty good score with it.

by magicnerd - 16 months ago
New Zealand New Zealand
Member Since: Jul 2010
Member Points: 2

That's Not An Opening? That's Two Moves.

by Checkmater555 - 16 months ago
Sweden
Member Since: Apr 2010
Member Points: 1346

It is simply not possible to evaluate this position. 

by AlexiShirov - 16 months ago
Alexandria Egypt
Member Since: Sep 2010
Member Points: 130

Wrong move by black ! Symmetrical playing leads to a loss if you are black .. principle .

by coach72 - 16 months ago
United States
Member Since: Aug 2010
Member Points: 1
Why would you never do that if you were black ?
by Greznjev - 22 months ago
Oostende Belgium
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 8

Won as white each time black played the symmetrical variation

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