The Conspiracies of Valery Salov, Part 2
Continued from Part 1.
Surov: I'll try to go to that. I've got a "fresh head" here on the platter, and I've been trying to attach some wires to it to make it talk. Evgeny Sidorov, hello!
Evgeny Sidorov: Hi!
Surov: What questions do you have for Valery?
Sidorov: The questions were already asked. I've been listening quite intently, but haven't heard anything concrete. The most concrete question was, "Who?" If we talk about Ilyumzhinov - who made him the FIDE president? Valery answered, as far as I understood him, with "someone who has the power to make people presidents". Who's that?
Salov: I've answered your questions in the article that I wrote ten years ago. The Ilyumzhinov mystery is solved. I recommend you to visit my forum Shekhina and read it. It has all the answers.
Surov: Valery, we've got an audio discussion here. Could you, at the very list, open that article and provide us with some quotes that will answer our question?
Salov: I can answer that even without opening the article. But you'll understand it much better and fuller if you read it and think, not just listen to what I'd say.
I can say the same thing about the Karpov - Kasparov match. There are several topics at the forum dedicated to that, for instance, "The Kippur - Kapparos ritual in the world championship matches". It's described very thoroughly there: what kind of ritual this is, why and how is it held. Rituals are a very serious problem, and there are some serious political interests that are trying to suppress this information. And everyone who lives in today's Russian Fedeation must understand these things and fight against those rituals.
Sidorov: The thing is, one usually reads articles, books, etc. on some topic only if there's some interesting or controversial premise. I haven't heard any premises. You say that the article says who benefits from that. Who benefits from that, and why?
Salov: I've already named two most important factors: the Babylonian Talmud and the Kabbalah. Specifically, Isaac Luria's Kabbalah. Lurianic Kabbalah is the foundation of freemasons' philosophy. And freemasonry is the main political power in the modern world, it's the basis of all politics. And if you don't know anything about Lurianic Kabbalah, you'll never understand what's happening in the world. That's my premise.
Sidorov: Let's assume that I don't know anything. I can suppose that Kabbalah is some kind of organization. But I don't know anything about the Babylonian Talmud. Is it an organization too?
Salov: No, Kabbalah isn't an organization, it's a certain metaphysical system, a worldview, a set of certain rituals. The Kabbalah is intimately connected to the epidemic of spiritism that was unleashed in the middle of 19th century: it began in the United States, then infected Europe and Russia. Did you read anything about that?
Sidorov: I did. So, the Kabbalah is a philosophical school of thought? But nothing can be beneficial for a philosophy; only people can benefit from something. Did I understand you right that there's an organization, let's say a freemasonic organization, that controls all our life?
Salov: There's no single "freemasonic" organization. Freemasonry is a very serious theme, there's a lot of denominations of it both in Europe and Russia, and there are some "paramasonic" organizations as well - the Rosicrucians, the Martinists, the Illuminati, the agnostics, etc. All these things are taught in universtities. Do you know that there's a History of Russian Freemasonry course in the Leningrad University? These people are not some crazy marginals that get all their information from the Internet. This is taught in a university, it's science.
Sidorov: I'm not saying that they were marginals or something. I'm trying to understand your premises. I used "freemasonry" for lack of a better term. You mean that there is some organization, some people who control all our lives. All visible authority figures are just puppets - either voluntary or involuntary. And such details as the Karpov-Kasparov matches or the 9/11 events can be used to investigate these people and understand their goals and interests. Did I understand you right?
Salov: Let's use Russia as an example. It had lost its sovereignty as early as in the late 18th century, it ceased to be a sovereign state. Because at the Wilhelmsbad freemasonic congress of 1782, some agreements were reached; the status of freemasonic organizations working with Russia was changed, and Russia became the eight freemasonic province in Europe. These are scientific facts that are taught in universities, but they're never publicized. Because these facts pertain to real governance. Not the mythology about Putin being a dictator, Putin ruling Russia with iron hand, like Kasparov says. I'm trying to explain to the people that Putin decides nothing by himself, he's just a middle rung in the ladder of governance. He's doing exactly what he's told to do. And you have to understand that. And the only people who do understand are those who were educated in the universities in the right departments, as I was. We weren't taught about that back when I studied, and even now the information is released very sporadically.
But now we're talking about chess now, so freemasonry isn't as relevant as the Kabbalah as a worldview and as a metaphysical system. I'm infuriated, for instance, by Sergei Kurginian's video lectures, there's more than a hundred of them. One category is called "The Meaning of the Game", where he allegedly explains the meaning of world's political games. And the other category is "The School of Essence", the programs where he gave away metaphysical information. So, in a hundred three-hour lectures, he didn't give any basic knowledge and didn't explain anything. He doesn't even use the terms that are necessary for understanding of what's happening in the world. That's how deep the manipulation runs! And Kurginian has the gall to call himself the only serious political analyst in Russian Federation. Though I can even agree with him there, because Kurginian, despite his narrow-mindedness and manipulativeness, is the only one who at least tries to analyze anything. Of course, he never tells us any important things.
Surov: While my namesake asked you questions, I came up with two on my own. As I understand from your words, we are controlled by some kind of system of worldviews. Does this system have any leaders? And who controls Putin, in particular?
Salov: Concerning Putin and Russia - there's a widespread opinion now that Russia is ruled by the Habad sect. Do you know about it?
Salov: And you don't know who's Menahem Schneierson is?
Salov. Then you should read my book on the topic of the religious cult that exists in the Russian Federation, disguised as the restored Orthodox Christianity. This is a cult of the seventh rabbi of the Habad-Lubavich sect, Menahem-Mendl Schneierson. Of course, the cult is anti-Christian.
Even such basic info sounds like a revelation for you. Can you imagine? People don't have even basic knowledge of what's happening.
Surov: While the "fresh head" was trying to help me, I've been thinking of what to do next. And I haven't thought up anything better than to look at the listeners' questions - they keep coming, by the way. Here's a question that seems relevant. Alexander from vk.com asked, "Valery, you explained that you quit chess because you criticized Kasparov, and the tournament organizers have shut you out. If you were an elite player, wasn't it easier to criticize Kasparov over the board?" In other words, why couldn't you defeat him in chess? Alexander says that your score against Kasparov is 0-3.
Salov: I last met Kasparov in 1993. We have accidentally met in the French Team Championship; he expected to play Anand, but Anand came and said that he didn't want to face Kasparov with Black, and asked to play at board two. I readily agreed to switch places, played Kasparov with Black and quickly drew. This was our last game, because after that he became very careful not to play in the same tournaments with me. And afterwards, I didn't play because I didn't get invited anywhere.
The last Kasparov vs. Salov game
And concerning the scores, 1-0, or 2-0, or whatever, it's a very serious theme - what is chess and how it really happens there. Very recently, on April 24, there was an attempt on the famous American journalist Jeff Rense's life - he's also a critic of cryptocracy. And that assassination attempt was very interesting! He was driving on 60 mph on a highway, and suddenly lost consciousness. He was somehow affected from distance! He lost control over the car, it rolled over, his survival was almost a miracle. And there's an investigation going on to see how a man could just lose control and consciousness; he couldn't remember what happened at all. There are many technologies that can affect people. It's very simple to kill a person or suppress their consciousness with tech. It's very simple. Such technology is available since the 1960s.
Surov: Does anyone affect you?
Salov: I don't want to talk about myself! I'm not the problem! The problem is the system that's already installed in the world. The system that recognizes no human rights, no political process, no opposition. Kasparov thinks that it's all Putin's fault, but Putin doesn't make any decisions and doesn't influence anything. The same system is installed in the U.S. as well. Look: 2,300 architects and engineers can't even get into press with their demands to re-investigate the events of 9/11. They aren't let anywhere. Where are their rights, and what rights do they have, if any? That's the system. That's the problem, not the fact that someone affects or doesn't affect me.
Surov: From your words, I more or less understand what is the problem you want to scream about. But I can't understand who's behind it. Are there people who control the system? How many - one, one thousand, one million?
Salov: Perhaps we could go back to the questions? I have some questions from your site that we haven't addressed yet. The Humpback Horse asks, "Is it true that the Jews sold Russia? If they did, where can I get my cut?"
I've covered this topic, in a completely scientific way. The short answer: firstly, there is no Russia. Instead of Russia, we have the Russian Federation, the Egyptian Crocodile, as I refer to it. Secondly, there are no Jews too. This is the world's greatest problem now - the lack of Jews. I'm trying to get this point across. I didn't come up with it. Professor Shlomo Zand from the Tel Aviv University wrote several books, and one of them, Who and How Invented the Jewish People, is very well-known in Europe. You just have to know these basic facts, you have to think about them. I covered that topic too, along with many similar topics. We live in the world of myths, and the people don't understand even what the word "Jew" means, what it is. They're trying to say that they are direct descendants of the people who colonized Palestine in the 13th - 14th century BC. Who told you that you are their descendants? How can you know who were your ancestors? Who can know that? Can you trace your pedigree at least a thousand years back? No, you can't.
Surov: Do you address all these questions only to the Jews, or to the whole world's civilization - how can we know this or that?
Salov: The modern Jews have great geopolitical ambitions precisely because they have this mythology of descent from some "chosen people". This is a specific ultrafascism that's very widespread now. All world's countries are literally terrorized to accept the people who declared themselves "chosen" as the masters and lords of the whole planet. This is an absurd situation which, again, pushes us away from common sense, from science, from facts into the mythological space.
Surov: So, basically, you want to tell the Humpback Horse (by the way, he's a Jew) that there's nothing to sell, and nobody to sell to.
Salov: Nothing and nobody. Russia doesn't exist de facto since 1782, and de jure since 1917. And since 1922, it's been called USSR-Egypt-Mizraim. And now, it's called the RF. There's no more Russia. There's no more Orthodox Church, because a simulacrum of the church was created that enforces completely anti-Christian worldviews. If people have no basic understanding of even such simple questions, how can we discuss governance?
Let's look at more questions. One reader says that they were in tears from laughing after reading these questions. Yes, I was in tears too, because there were no reasonable questions. We've also missed a question from Mikhail Golubev.
Surov: He had no questions. He did a favour to you and provided the links to the articles you've mentioned.
Salov: I first thought that Mikhail Golubev wanted to share the links, and so he pretended to be critical to do that. Thank you for the links!
Surov: Evgeny, I interrupted you several minutes ago. If there was something important, I'm ready to hear you out.
Sidorov: You asked, how many people are there who control the system? As far as I understand, Valery is trying to answer those questions. Am I right?
Salov: Yes. My publications are dedicated to analyzing this questions: who's controlling us, how and why, where are we led to? And I've been researching that for a number of years. The analysis of purely chess rituals is a byproduct of my research - only because chess is a part of this control process, because it is indeed the model of life. I didn't dream that up, Mr. Kapparos said that.
Surov: OK, here's a question from "Ravsham". "You think that there's no Jewish nation at all. Is there a Russian nation, how is it different from the nation of the current Russia, and where did they live historically?
Salov: Here, the word "nation" again. I had a discussion with our Neo-Marxists, with the representatives of the Conception of Societal Security in 2005-06. I spent a year to scientifically bring down this new version of Marxism that's pushed in Russia. I dedicated a whole book to explain the meaning of the word "nation". Nobody understands what "nation" is. What is a Jewish nation or a Russian nation? Who came up with that? I know what is "people". Russian people, Jewish people. They have their faith, their culture, their territory, their language. But what is nation?
Here's another question: "Do you have any ideas for the final solution to the Jewish question?" It's an interesting one. It again boils down to terminology. The word еврей (Jew) appeared in the Russian language in the late 18th century. And the English word Jew also appeared in the late 18th century. This is newspeak, connected to a whole array of political myths, with the myth of the Israel state, of the Jewish nation, of the First and Second world wars. These are different topics, developed and described to me in great detail. How can I explain it all in a short radio program? If you want a short answer: the only thing we have to do is to admit that Jews do not exist. We have no other option. If we don't do that, the whole human civilization is doomed. Everyone is doomed: both those who call themselves Jews and those who don't. So the only way is to ditch this vicious idea of "chosenness", which cannot be proved or demonstrated, or even explained. This is mythology, deception.
Surov: Tell me, Valery, are your views close to those of Adolf Hitler?
Salov: My views are completely opposed to him, because Adolf Hitler was an agent of the powers that wanted the final solution for the European Christians. The World War II ended up with three main results. First: many Christians were killed, in essence, almost the entire Christian male population of Europe. The second result is the creation of the Israel state. That's why Hitler is called "the founding father of Israel". It's a long story, the relationship between the so-called Zionists (a very deceptive word, too) and the so-called Nazis. It's a separate scientific fields, and I have many publications in it. I have a topic "Hitler and Holocaust", and "Lurianic Kabbalah and the World War II". You have to know all these things.
Surov: Our program today is basically dedicated to the things that cannot be said over the airwaves, you have to go and read. We can give some links, of course...
Salov: Mikhail Golubev already gave all the links, he did a good job for progress, people's friendship and the World Player Council.
Surov: By the way, there was a question about WPC, I'll try to find it...
Salov: There was an interesting question around 1977. Thank you, yes, there was a funny episode. Leningrad 1977 tournament, Karpov vs Taimanov, and Karpov was checkmated quite prettily. I'm amazed how readers can remember such things in such detail, despite how much time has passed.
The famous Karpov - Taimanov game
Surov: I'm told that you pronounce KabbaLAH wrong.
Salov: It's correct either way. Pronounce "KabbaLAH", if you'd like, but I prefer KABbalah.
Surov: Another question from the site. "You are, or were, the World Player Council president. Tell us something about this organization's successes. Do you have any ideas on how to combat cheaters?
Salov: We are the only organization that has any successes in that. We have exposed such inveterate cheaters! Kasparov, Karpov, Anand! We have exposed Kramnik too, but I'm going ahead of myself. We have a list of eleven cheaters that should be disqualified.
Surov: Valery, name them, please! We should have at least one concrete thing in our interview. Name them all.
Salov: Here's another interesting moment in the chess history. Have you ever noticed the letter pattern: who was the world champion in the first quarter of the 20th century? Emmanuel Lasker. He was a champion for 27 years. And there were two more Laskers, his brother and Edward Lasker. Quite a lot of Laskers, don't you agree? Then, in the middle of the century, everyone was beginning with the letter B: Botvinnik, the world champion, Bronstein, the candidate who drew him, and Boleslavsky, who lost to Bronstein. Everyone on B. And in the latter part of the century, everyone's names were beginning with K: Korchnoi, Karpov, Kasparov, Kramnik, Kamsky, there are also Carlsen, Karjakin, Caruana [in Russian, Carlsen and Caruana are also spelled with K]. Look at the pattern: K, B and L. You should pay attention to that, because everything begins with these small details. You have to learn to concentrate on them.
Surov: These players you named are among the eleven who should be disqualified, am I right?
Salov: To tell you the truth, we have decided not to disqualify Korchnoi. Viktor Lvovich is very old, we should spare him and exclude him from the list. Though he was complicit in a big way, too.
Surov: I'm writing down the list. Lasker, Botvinnik, Bronstein...
Salov: No, no, we have only K's and A's in our list. Among the K's, there are Karpov, Kasparov, Kramnik, also Khalifman from St. Petersburg, the well-known chess organizer Raymond Keene, Bessel Kok also made it. It was too late for Campomanes to make the list though...
Surov: ...the late Campomanes. Yes, he's in a different list now.
Salov: We also added Anand and Carlsen. By the way, Carlsen is a very interesting figure in the chess world; I think Viktor Lvovich Korchnoi once said in an interview for your site that he couldn't understand the non-chess methods Carlsen used to win.
Surov: He said that numerous times.
Salov: Carlsen is very interesting, we're studying him as well. We also added Caruana. How many are there?
Surov: Nine. You haven't mentioned Karjakin.
Salov: No, we don't touch Serezha Karjakin.
Surov: He's not good enough?
Salov: Serezha can sleep well, but he should be careful, he should understand where he is and what games he's about to enter.
Surov: He's not entering. He did try, they want to return the chess crown to Russia, but as of now, they couldn't.
Salov: Don't dig that deep. Concentrate on the Karpov-Kasparov match - it's a huge, separate topic. This Kippur-Kapparos ritual was extensively studied by me. For a long time, I couldn't understand how their New York - Lyon 1990 match fit in. It's an interesting theme as well.
Surov: What about Aronian?
Salov: Aronian, of course, is in the list. We do need someone else with a name beginning with A.
Surov: So, who's eleventh? Nakamura doesn't fit. He has a "ka", but not in the beginning.
Salov: If we return to the Karpov-Kasparov matches - I'm address the second Evgeny now - let's look at the very interesting numerology of these matches. Even if you know nothing about what really happens, it still stands out. They played five matches, beginning from 1984. In all matches, all 24 games were played, and one of them consisted of 48 games - two by twenty-four. All in all, we have six by twenty-four. Look how pretty and numerological it is!
Sidorov: What's so pretty about that? The World Championship is contested in a match of 24 games. What's so wonderful here? That one match lasted for 48 games?
Salov: The interesting thing is that no match ended prematurely. Even after winning series, three wins in a row, the other partner managed to equalize.
Sidorov: Did many 24-game matches end prematurely?
Salov: The vast majority of them. How many drawn matches there were? Bronstein-Botvinnik...
Sidorov: I'm not ready to answer that question. Can you, Evgeny?
Surov: I think Valery is right. But there weren't too many 24-game matches. There were also some matches without game limits, and after Karpov and Kasparov...
Salov: There were more than enough 24-game matches since 1951. Just look at the stats. Four 24-game matches in a row, and no-one manages to get 12.5 points until the last game. It's not as simple.
Surov: Yuri Volkov asks the question: "Valery Borisovich, tell us how are you feeling? Can you dispel some myths about you (which myths?) It's disgusting to read some comments and questions. Waiting for honest and truthful answers." Were you honest and truthful today?
Salov: Yes. I'd like to thank Yuri for this comment. But I think he didn't understand the heroics of the Secret Agent [a reference to a 1947 Soviet movie] Mikhail Golubev who tried to disseminate the information while disguising himself as a critic. I think he didn't like the performance of our Ukrainian friend.
Surov: Do you know GM David Navara?
Salov: Of course, I even thought - did he really read the comments and ask a question?
Surov: Exactly! He asks you - such a naive man! - what do you think about the modern chess. And what period would you choose to play elite chess in, if you could?
Salov: In the late 1990s I already understood that chess as a sport became meaningless, because the chess engines became very strong, and we have absolutely no real control over cheaters. Moreover, the bigwigs of FIDE and national chess federations are interested in cheating, they actually want it to be the decisive factor. The current political development is heading towards the elimination of humanity as a species; humans will be displaced by human-computer hybrids. Let David think about that too. There are big projects pushing for microchipping everyone in the near future, for creating biological cyborgs. Therefore, the FIDE bigwigs are interested in everone's cheating, using computers, mobile phones or whatever. By the way, many readers of my forum are sure that, for instance, Carlsen is wired, he's using computer help. At first, I resisted, then I almost agreed with them. But recently, I looked through Carlsen's games and was bewildered. I can't understand how he wins! He doesn't have a really good technique. Yes, he's winning good technical games, but he's making mistakes unthinkable for a player of such level! I don't know what to think of him.
Surov: But the mistakes can be seen as a proof that he does not use engines!
Salov: It's neither. He's an enigma. His opponents make lots of unforced mistakes, and I can't explain that. Of course, when we played Kasparov, we made unforced mistakes too. But I'll have to give credit to Kasparov where it's due: his opening preparation was nothing short of fantastic, and he won many games straight from the opening. Carlsen doesn't have that. To get such a rating and show such results as he does now he should be superhuman. He should play better than a machine, but he lacks the technique for that. His wins are a real enigma!
Surov: We have finally reached the question from Alexei Shirov. "Undear and non-respected Valerik! Me and GM Evgeny Solozhenkin would like you to tell the Chess-News listeners in great detail how exactly did we "drown" Krymsk. I need the technical details. Did we explode something, or just turned some valve or faucet? I'm very interested."
Salov: These are two frequent readers of our forums. Alexei Shirov - we call him Alexei Shirikov - and GM Solozhenkin.
Surov: "We", as in who?
Salov: The frequent readers of our forum. This Krymsk flood of 2012 is a big, complicated, tragic theme that's connected to the messianic project as well. It's not for this discussion, I won't talk about that now.
Surov: And how is Shirov complicit in that?
Salov: Shirov is complicit in many things. We have a topic about him at our forums, you can read it and see what happens in his head.
Surov: So, this isn't for the radio too?
Salov: There's just no time now.
Surov: Another question we received during the program: "An interesting program. Ask him about Fischer. Was Spassky-Fischer match rigged too? Why did Fischer quit chess and then play again twenty years later?"
Salov: I recently wrote a series of articles for the Spanish about Fischer. I think that we should dedicate a separate program to Fischer, because it's a huge topic, with all his ideas, his chess career. He isn't taken for who he is. Look at our forum, the "Heroes of Chess and Checkers" board. We have a topic about Fischer there, in English and Spanish mostly.
Both Fischer's matches against Spassky had a colossal political symbolism. By the way, I know Boris Vasilyevich quite well, I talked to him, he told me many things.
Surov: Was this match rigged?
Salov: No, I wouldn't say that. But you can rig matches in many ways. There's a lot of ways to influence the match's result, even without players feeling it or knowing what's going on. With tech, parapsychological things, some demonic things - there's a lot of ways.
Surov: But in this match, the players were influenced?
Salov: In the first match - they were, no doubt. In the second - they probably weren't, I don't know. The second match that was played in 1992 in Yugoslavia also had a colossap political symbolism. I don't want to say that chess players took an active part, but there was some influence.
Surov: So, that's what I understood from today's program. We should dedicate separate programs to: a) Fischer; b) Russia; c) Krymsk and Alexei Shirov's part in that...
Salov: Krymsk isn't relevant; there are many more interesting topics than Krymsk, even though it was a real tragedy. But you should understand that, say, the World War II is a tragedy that's a thousand times bigger. And the current views of the World War II are completely schizophrenic and have no bearing with reality. I wrote a lot about that.
Surov: Now I'm talking to Evgeny Sidorov. Evgeny, if you have any question to Valery, please ask them. If you don't, I'll ask you to prepare some kind of bottom line for our today's talk.
Sidorov: I've already done that several minutes ago. As far as I understood, Valery is watching some things in plain sight (including such insignificant things as the chess world championship matches) and trying to determine... not even the people who are controlling us (I don't care whether their name is John or Peter), but their goals, intentions and where are they leading us. That's what I understood from today's program. I hope to read about it in more details on the linked resources. I'm really interested in the system of proof.
Surov: Valery, does the number "35" have any particular significance in your worldview?
Salov: No, numbers play no part in my system. See, the short definition of Kabbalah is displacing the logical and moral thinking with counting. That's the essense of Kabbalah. That's what's happening in the today's world. That's why people are having such a hard time getting around in today's world: they don't understand the logic of events because logic is displaced with counting, with numbers and numerology. That's the problem. I'm not a fan of numerology, I just study it from afar, watching it and trying to understand its methods.
Surov: Good. I wanted to give you 35 seconds for the last word, but I think you just said it.
Salov: I think we'd better stop at this. I want to call to everyone again: think actively, be more vigilant and attentive to what happens. Very serious and unpleasant processes are going on. You cannot influence them. Firstly, because of lack of any kind of organized political protest, it has no outlet. And secondly, the masses just don't understand what's going on. That's what you should concentrate on.
Surov: Thank you, Valery! Thank you, Evgeny! To conclude, I want to say that we did manage to get ten out of eleven K's and A's: Karpov, Kasparov, Kramnik, Khalifman, Keene, Kok, Anand, Carlsen, Caruana, Aronian.
Salov: You forgot the leader - Kirsan!
Surov: Doesn't his last name begin with "I"?
Salov: No, Kirsan is Kirsan. All world knows him as "Kirsan the Illuminated".
Surov: So, he's eleventh, did I understand that right?
Salov: Of course he is.
Surov: So, we got the eleventh name. Alas, there's no place for Kamsky, I wanted to mentioned him as well. Thanks, Valery!
Salov: Thank you, and thanks to Evgeny for taking part in today's program.