A little video showing what we're up against...

Don't know whether this will make you laugh or cry. Maybe both? Anyways, enjoy my fellow lost ones!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvVAV09-dQ8

WOW.

Words fail me. That's one of those videos that would be impossible to parody.

I'm going with "satire". But it's realistically impossible to know if they're serious or not. Poe's Law strikes again!

It's no Poe. She has other videos out there as well that show this to be real... sadly.

You've got to admire Saraa's (the "victim") courtesy. I would never been able to face such treatment without getting enraged.

Stegocephalian: So true.

Yeah, nothing but props for Saraa. Her, I respect.

It is the normality, reality of being a 'true christian teenager'. How do I know? Because I've been there, did the same damn thing, trying to convince non believers.This is what you do as a christian, I have seen a documentary where U.S. Christians went to South America, handing out medicine etc. putting the people there under pressure to convert to their believe and found it absolutely shocking. But when I have seen this video, I saw myself again and this is what it is all about. We want to convert others. Do we not?

If I discuss religion today, I am a atheist and still do the same thing: try to convert to what I think is wright. Mind, I know there India is.

An eye opener for me, thanks for posting ;o)

I'm going to have to quibble with you a little rdietl.

I have no desire to "convert" anyone to atheism. It's not even possible. Atheism makes no positive claims to which one can be converted to. One might as well try to convert someone to be a-unicornist or a-santaist. They, like atheism aren't systems from which one can gain a set of morals or anything like that.

I am a secular humanist though, which is something you could probably claim to try to convert people to. I'm also always a proponent for rationalism and skepticism. Although these aren't things you can be converted to. They're a way of approaching the universe and how we view it, but that's a very different thing. 

Sorry if I'm being a pedantic dick about this. :)

No you are right, I just saw myself again as a teenager. I left the stage where I want to convert or convince long time ago.

But still ... the fact that this group exists and the subjects it deals with is a sign that it is in humans desire to find groups of similar interests and people who think similar ... And we like to present our thoughts in competition with others... in order to learn and change .. or to approve of our thoughts.

Apart from this human desire to compare or compete there is of course the order in Christian and Muslim religion to spread the word and to convert non believers. And here, I think, starts the line where these religions went way out of their way using power rather than reason to convince.  .. exclusion and destruction. And it still goes on. I find it very amusing how the different confessions fight for space in the birth church  in Bethlehem, trying to expand their territory.

I 'believe' in diversity and plurality.

I understand and think I can agree as well with what you've said. 

I was always fairly hesitant to try to convert others when I was younger and a Christian. I was never very outspoken about my faith. Perhaps because I never had a whole lot of it? Lol! But most of my friends at the time would have fit along nicely with these women. 

Wow this is quite horrible.

We have an expression in Greece for incidents in this spirit
We say “it is for laughter and tears”!
This video doesn’t show the ignorance of Christians but the illiteracy of some guys that rule the world…

I agree that this is quite horrible.

Well, I think it would be pretty damn hard to not say it doesn't show the ignorance of those young Christian women. Their ignorance and ego and blindness. 

It has nothing to do with people who rule the world except as how it relates to religion. 

It has to do with education in school and not that they are christians.

Is that the average level of education in USA?

I believe that the issue is political and not religional. They are trying to convince the Indian that she is African! That means illiteracy from school, not the church.

Anyway, the fact that they claim to be christians doesnt mean that they also ARE! I am a christian and I dont agree with them..

I know it's easy to act like all Americans are idiots and unaware of the rest of the world. It's easy and it's wrong. I would bet you any amount of money that the young women in this video were "Home schooled". It's what many fundamentalist Christians do here. They have a parent teach the children at home instead of sending them to a state school.

Oh, but they are Christians! You don't get to act like they aren't. Comments like yours about them not being so are representative of the many and vast schisms that have given us religious war after religious war. 

"Well, they're Sunni, not real Muslims!" "Well, they're protestant, not real Christians!" etc. Trust me, we know all about that. You don't get to use that excuse, my friend. 

Anastasios - adding to what Dahan pointed out, the "they are not true Christians" is an instance of a general fallacy known as the "No True Scotsman" fallacy, and it is really useful to aquaint oneself with this very seductive thought  error (one that non-believers aren't immune to either). Here's the best explanation of it I've encountered: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HJrAaGJudw

That's a great video, Steg. Well thought out. Hadn't seen it before.

He looks familiar, I think I might have seen another video of his over at Pharyngula at one time or another.

Yes, theramintrees is one of the best YouTubers out there. Outstanding content. There's just an unfair amount of tallent and intelligence in his family, as his brother also makes outstanding videos. His brother goes by the name of "qualiasoup". Here's a sample of his work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsPn5dXfTvA

I had in mind something like the movie "American History-X" with Edward Norton.

Ofcourse I dont believe that ALL Americans are the same, like I dont believe that ALL Christians are the same. But as you see "crusaders for the peace of god" (I laugh too) and you think "Bad and lier christians" the rest of the world sees your army in their land "for the freedom and democracy" and thinks the same and worst for the whole number, and this is unfair for both..

I didnt knew that there is home education without school education in USA.In Greece this is illegal!

I have a video too..

www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=8cf08faca5dd9ea45513

George Buss and Michael Moore are USA citizens both!..