How many points should Rooks and Bishops be

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Avatar of Cavatine

Let us have a 3-sided debate

Assuming Pawns are 1 and Knights are 3, should we keep Bishops and Rooks at 5?

Pro:

The current point system, bishops=rooks=5, knights=3

Con, Bishops 4: 

Bishops should be 4, rooks should be 5, knights should be 3.

Con, Rooks 6:

Rooks=6, bishops 5, knights 3.

 

Avatar of Daznet

Due to the four sided nature of the game, Bishops are more powerful. possibly more so than Rooks. A very enjoyable format of the game which no doubt will continue to evolve.

Avatar of LuzhinsGhost

I agree with Daznet. I value the bishops far more than I value the rooks. Everything else the same, I value bishops at about 7

Avatar of Martin0

I think the values should stay as they currently are to reflect standard chess more and make them easier to remember for new players. How much I think the pieces are really worth is not quite the same as what I think the point values should be.

Avatar of MGleason

Bishops are definitely worth more than knights.  I think 5 is good.  After a couple pawn moves they can immediately start shooting at both of your neighbours.

Rooks, once you get them developed, can fly all the way across the board to hit the person on the other side, which a bishop usually takes two moves to do.  But usually you're not as interested in targeting them.   A rook in the middle can also target all three players and contribute to defense.  Still, because they're slower to develop, they're probably not worth more than 5.

A queen, though, should maybe be worth more than 9.  It combines the R+B; normally that's 5+3=9 due to the synergy.  Now it's 5+5=9, and I don't believe synergy has turned negative.  Should the queen be 11 or 12?

Avatar of guineapig25

bishops should be worth 4

Avatar of hh99754539
MGleason wrote:

Bishops are definitely worth more than knights.  I think 5 is good.  After a couple pawn moves they can immediately start shooting at both of your neighbours.

Rooks, once you get them developed, can fly all the way across the board to hit the person on the other side, which a bishop usually takes two moves to do.  But usually you're not as interested in targeting them.   A rook in the middle can also target all three players and contribute to defense.  Still, because they're slower to develop, they're probably not worth more than 5.

A queen, though, should maybe be worth more than 9.  It combines the R+B; normally that's 5+3=9 due to the synergy.  Now it's 5+5=9, and I don't believe synergy has turned negative.  Should the queen be 11 or 12?

 

Avatar of NoHaxJustLuck
Cavatine wrote:

Let us have a 3-sided debate

Assuming Pawns are 1 and Knights are 3, should we keep Bishops and Rooks at 5?

Pro:

The current point system, bishops=rooks=5, knights=3

Con, Bishops 4: 

Bishops should be 4, rooks should be 5, knights should be 3.

Con, Rooks 6:

Rooks=6, bishops 5, knights 3.

 

i think that bishops should be 6 because they are much easier to activate, and rooks can be targeted very easily.

Avatar of MCCLEdward

Keep it the same. The bishop and rook are like half a queen. One can move only in ranks and files, while the other one can only move diagonally, thus making a "2-piece queen."

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Avatar of Eseles

I think that a determining factor of great importance about the value of the pieces should be the amount of squares that they can control "on average". For Knights (and Kings, and pawns) it's almost the same as in normal chess, but the board is much bigger, which makes them less effective. On the contrary, the value of Queens, Bishops, and Rooks goes up by using a bigger board.

Avatar of icystun

I think the pieces should have a different value of at least 1, giving the rook more points value should still hold true, since it's better in open space...why would the queen be 9, that's absolutely too much by the same logic...

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