Match Problems

Marignon you allowed a city team babylon to participate representing a city that don.t exist anumite. You should of known that the players would be from different cities.

Yes, we had no rule against people from different cities - only against different nations (flags).

Please, suggest your rule and we'll discuss it and vote on it and follow it from the next season if it is accepted by majority.

Hello Marignon,

I am aware that with the globalizațion people are working în different countries than their birth plăces. We cannot impose this type of rules without being unfair with the corect people.

I only propose to eliminate team babylon from the competition next year. And allow to participate only existing city teams and not province teams or region teams. Region or province teams are ussualy bigger because includes sometimes more cities and it.s not fair toward the city teams.

Kind regards,

Bonjour Yuri,bonjour tout le monde

je voudrais introduire une réclamation au sujet de des "account closed" de nos adversaires,je sais que les points nous reviennent selon le règlement mais il y a un problême sous-jacent à cette situation,en effet les joueurs en question provoquent un décalage qui modifient la physionomie de la confrontation et nous pénalisent bien plus que les résultats ne le laissent apparaitre,aussi je demande une compensation eu egard aux pénalités que nous encourons,cette équipe a été la moins fair-play depuis le début.

Cordialement esma

Yuri

l'incidence de cette situation modifie même les appariements,le classement ainsi que le parcours de cette équipe,vraiment ce serait justice qu'une pénalité supplementaire soit prise

cordialement esma

Je connais que dans les matches de Rasht contre Moscou Caster a triche lui-meme en excluant les joueurs. Je ne voulais pas elever cette question par la fleme.

Maintenant caster est foutu meme que ses captures donc allons jouer, avoir du plasir de penser et ne preter aucune attention aux resultats. Je refuse d'appliquer pour le moment tout penalti sauf les drapeaux et les comptes fermees.

Mais pour vous c'est aussi la derniere notification - le fait d'eliminer ces joueurs faibles du match est tres mal vu par tout le monde.

entendu Yuri

Another team that should not be on this competition next year is Team Touluse Occitanie because represent an histosic region that includes a lot of cities from south of France and more cities outside France.

This is not fair for the majority of the teams that represents a city. This team represents more cities.

Yuri, and the council, i hope you will take this in consideration.

Let's make a fair and beautiful competition next year.  :)

Occitania includes the following regions:

• The southern half of France: Provence, Drôme-Vivarais, Auvergne, Limousin, Guyenne, Gascony, southern Dauphiné and Languedoc. French is now the dominant language in this area, where Occitan is not recognized as an official language.
• The Occitan Valleys in the Italian Аlps, where the Occitan language received legal status in 1999. These are fourteen Piedmontese valleys in the provinces of Cuneo and Torino, as well as in scattered mountain communities of the Liguria region (province of Imperia), and, unexpectedly, in one community (Guardia Piemontese) in the region of Calabria (province of Cosenza).
• The Aran valley, in the Pyrenees, in Catalonia (Spain) where Occitan has been an official language since 1990 (status granted by the partial autonomy of Aran Valley, then confirmed by the Catalan Statute)
• The Principality of Monaco (where Occitan is traditionally spoken besides Monégasque).

Team Quebec should not be in the competition next year because represents the province of Quebec as the admin of team Quebec describes.

The province of Quebec is bigger than the city of Quebec.

This is not fair for the majority of the teams that represent just one city.

''Ceci est l'équipe officielle représentant la province du Québec''

Romania has also a few reagions like Transilvania, Moldavia, Muntenia, Dobrogea etc . This reagions includes more than one city.

We could participate with one of the region team but it's not fair for all the city involved in this competition. :)

So we have in total by now 3 teams that represents more than one city:

Team Babylon, Team Touluse Occitanie amd team Quebec.

I propose that this 3 teams should be excluded in the next year competition.

If you do not agree with this please propose this measure to all teams to vote before starting the 2016 competition.

As Michael Jackson said in his song: Let's Make a better place" , i hope we will make a better place this competition and to perfect it. It's human to make mistakes and we can correct our mistakes.

Have a nice Day,

Kind regards,

i remind all of yoou that this 3 region teams are in the top 10 teams of this competition after 7 rounds. This is not fair.

Please admins of  one city team, express your ideeas about the presence of this region team in this competition. It is ok for you? It is fair?

Please share your ideeas.

(I am an admin for Team Toronto)

My 2 cents: First of all, I don't think it's fair to kick a team out in the middle of a competiton just for this reason, so let's  not do that.

But looking ahead, I'm not sure. Obviously, it's unfair they can get a wider region, but how exactly does one defined a city? For example, could I join Team Toronto if I'm from Mississauga, Vaughan, Markham, Richmond Hill, Brampton, Scarborough, or whatever (look it up if you don't understand)? And how does one figure out that a certain user is from a certain city?Does it matter?

Yeah, it's tough. So, I think that those teams that cover regions instead of cities, should be bailed, but let's not have anymore of those type of teams join.

As for the fact that they have an advantage of being able to cover a larger geographical region, I'm not sure if it's a big advantage. Sure, it's better to have more members, but I rather have 30 active members then 300 inactive members. Quality > Quantity

Hello Penguin,

I didn't say to kick out these teams in the middle of this competition. I said for the future competition in 2016. Please read carefully in the future and do not missinterprete my words.

Penguincw wrote:

For the rest i agree with you. i also think that region teams should not be accepted in the future in this competition.

But i do not agree to ''bail'' (save-keep) the region teams that are now in this competition and to participate the next year.

Have a nice day,

I never said you said it, that statement was just made in general.

I see you and I agree on not allowing future region teams to join.

However, the reason why I say the region teams that are here now should be kept is because it's hard to prevent, say, a city-team from becoming a region-team (ex. I'm an admin for Team Toronto, and there's no way for you to prevent me from accepting someone who claims to be from Vancouver in the team, nor would you have evidence to prove so).

(more opinions are needed in this issue)

I agree Penguin with you.

I am not saying about the city teams that has already in their team players from another city. We could not prevent this. I know. We are going on trust policy here.

I am talkingt about the declared region teams.

If you will accept the region teams that are now in this competition you could not say no to the future region teams. This is a precedent.

This competition is named Cities Swissand not Region Swiss.

a lot of teams joined this competition thinking that is a city competition where teams that represents one city are playing.

This is not fair for region teams that includes more than one city to play against a team that represent one city. It' s not fair. Region is bigger, represents a different category.

I agree with Bobi, if the name of the tournament is for Cities Teams let's follow it. We defenately need a voting before next season starts

@Penguincw I think you needn't say your last sentence, it's up to you to deliberately break the rules or not but we must respect them and saying you could break it is not a good idea even if you won't do it

"This is not fair for region teams that includes more than one city to play against a team that represent one city. It' s not fair. Region is bigger, represents a different category" - This does not have to be completely true, because there are for sure some regions that are smaller than other cities, by area, population and number of chess.com users. But, problem can be denying membership to some regions because their teams are too big and strong and giving permition to another ones who could not be part of this league without association with other nearby cities. 

So, I would agree that World Cities Tournaments should be consisted only from cities teams, not regions, because it is the simplest way to avoid problems, and it also respects its original name

This "city pride league" of bobi and his followers completely spoils the good atmosphere of these tournaments. It was already the case in the WCL and it repeats here. Are you trying again to win with your rules when you feel you are losing on the board, bobi?

1. Babylon worries you because they are winning in front of you (and Quebec just following you). Well, the ancient city of Babylon is not far geographically from Bagdad, so let's rename it team Bagdad, and nevermind the poetry the name Babylon brought...

2. Have you noticed that Quebec is also a city? Shame if that city couldn't play because it has the same name as a region... Not to mention that except few big cities like Quebec or Montreal, the region of Quebec is rather empty, so showing a map does not mean anything unless you also show the population density.
And if team Mexico wanted to play, would it also be banned because some moron would think that it is the entire country of Mexico playing?

3. team Toulouse Occitanie was just team Occitanie before these cities tournaments were created. When we decided to enter these tournaments, we split the players between cities. Toulouse has kept the label Occitanie as a memory of the original team and because it is the largest and can be seen as the "capital" of Occitanie. But you probably have noticed that they are other cities from that region playing the tournament, such as Bordeaux. So the team Toulouse Occitanie really represents Toulouse and its close surroundings and not the whole region. If really it makes you feel happier, Esmaralda can remove the word Occitanie, if it does not disappoint too much the players, and that'll be it. But I don't think it will be worth just because of you...

I mean.. This sort of comments and remarks you make on the teams that are allowed or not to play are absolutely crap. And trying to blackmail the organisers by threatening to leave the competition every time they do not agree with you shows how bad a person you are. So if you want to leave, please do, it will make this competition far better and enjoyable.

Phoenix, Adriano, what do you say about that? Rookover tells that you are my folowers.

Rookover everybody from here looks a fair competition. We do not look to win this competition with all cost. If were so we could of brought people outside our cities and we would of won.

We will vote and we will see what the majority will vote. If the admins of all teams will vote and the majority will vote and think like you i will obbey and respect the decision.

PS i noticed în your comments the lack if respect towards me and your language was very couloured. I will not speak with you with the same language because this means lower myself to your level.

If you think that i am wrong you could of say that with nice words. Nice words can change people and myself when i am wrong i recognize my errors.

With you street language you cannot convinge somebody that îs doing sonething wrong. On the contrary.

Kind regards,