Clarifying questions: I analyze my game with a non-premium player. If I visit their archive I can see the analysis numbers.
1. If another premium member visits the same archive they too see the analysis numbers. True?
2. If the game owner - non-premium player visits their archive they do not see the analysis number. True?
3. If any non-premium player visits said archive the analysis number are not shown. True?
4. Any premium player clicking on the archive's analysis numbers either
a. launches an analysis report process
or
b, opens the existing analysis report
Which is it a or b?
5. If the analysis is run and there are annotations added what does the [Share] exactly share?
a. the analysis report only?
b' the analysis report and any annotations?
6. If the annotations are included in the [Share] how does one maintain a private version with annotations that is accessible from their archive listing?
Question: Analysis Report - Share vs. Save - policy change?
Experiment I analyzed and annotated this master game and [Share]'d it. Any premium members want to look and see if the annotations appear? https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/master/290740
If you see the annotation, what happens if you edit and also add additional annotations and [Share]?
We only changed the name of the button to help people know what it was intended for. It behaves the same as it always has.
We only changed the name of the button to help people know what it was intended for. It behaves the same as it always has.
This is a bug as the action provide by the button is save not share. There is a Share function already that behaves differently.
The button should say [Save].
When you press the orange share button, if make the analysis you have done public and you give that url to someone else and they can view your analysis directly. Not just send them the pgn like the share triangle does.
For example, I just made this: https://www.chess.com/a/2KMonQ7Gr2CgQ2 which if you click will take you the analysis I just did.
When you press the orange share button, if make the analysis you have done public and you give that url to someone else and they can view your analysis directly. Not just send them the pgn like the share triangle does.
very good 
But the act of clicking [Share] is not sharing the file, it is a save!
In my experiment above clicking on the analysis link https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/master/290740 does not present my analysis, to others It invokes analysis for that person. However that is the link address for me to see my analysis and if it were my game the link presented in my archive to my [Save]'d analysis.
Again, [Share] is a bug, as overloading the definition of Share by providing 2 ways to do Share on the same screen with different implications is a bug.
For example, I just made this: https://www.chess.com/a/2KMonQ7Gr2CgQ2 which if you click will take you the analysis I just did.
it is unclear to me how/where that address came from. My contention is with [Share] in the Analysis Report, occurrence, not when doing game self analysis. Your link in not an annotated Analysis Report.
For example, I just made this: https://www.chess.com/a/2KMonQ7Gr2CgQ2 which if you click will take you the analysis I just did.
JD - There's a big difference between what you've done and what we are doing...
In your example, it seems - I could be wrong... - that you have a) opened a blank analysis page, b) entered some moves and comments and c) clicked "share". I have done that too, and here's the link: https://www.chess.com/a/xbbSQ5tJap7g
What we are doing, is a) clicking on the "analyze" button on a completed game page and b) being redirected to the analysis page for/from that game. When you reach the analysis page in this manner and click on "share", it only acts as a "save" button - no URL is created - and as @jas0501 has demostrated in post #3, there is no analysis visible to other users.
So, if the "share" button is meant to work as you demonstrated in your post #7, and I have demonstrated here, then it needs to function consistently, whether users reach the analysis page via a completed game as many of us do, or via a blank analysis page as you and I have done.
- Mitch
For example, I just made this: https://www.chess.com/a/2KMonQ7Gr2CgQ2 which if you click will take you the analysis I just did.
JD - There's a big difference between what you've done and what we are doing...
In your example, it seems - I could be wrong... - that you have a) opened a blank analysis page, b) entered some moves and comments and c) clicked "share". I have done that too, and here's the link: https://www.chess.com/a/xbbSQ5tJap7g
What we are doing, is a) clicking on the "analyze" button on a completed game page and b) being redirected to the analysis page for/from that game. When you reach the analysis page in this manner and click on "share", it only acts as a "save" button - no URL is created - and as @jas0501 has demostrated in post #3, there is no analysis visible to other users.
So, if the "share" button is meant to work as you demonstrated in your post #7, and I have demonstrated here, then it needs to function consistently, whether users reach the analysis page via a completed game as many of us do, or via a blank analysis page as you and I have done.
- Mitch
Fair point.
The fix is not to change the behavior of the button while in Analysis Report, just change the button to say "Save" as that is the desired result.
Everyone gets the same Report ("Full Analysis") and other people would see your Saved Analysis (little annotations and variations you make) if you shared the short URL with them.
If you are on a Report and make your own annotations and save it, only _you_ would see that (unless you shared the short url version with someone).
When on Report the button should say "Save"; While on a blank analysis it will say "Share" until you click it the first time, in which case it will start saying "Save"
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If you are on a Report and make your own annotations and save it, only _you_ would see that (unless you shared the short url version with someone).
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The Analysis Report offers no short url.
Clicking the real Share icon presents the long url for the address Chess.com/analysis/whatever.... Anyone accessing that address, other than the owner, will not see the annotations. So sharing the pgn is the only method for sharing Analysis Report annotations.
> The Analysis Report offers no short url.
Typically you get the long url prior to saving
See this gif of me looking at one of your Reports and then making my own annotation
> The Analysis Report offers no short url.
Typically you get the long url prior to saving
See this gif of me looking at one of your Reports and then making my own annotation
Please see my post #11 for why the lack of consistency is problematic... In short, the analysis board that users encounter when they are re-directed via the "analyze" button on a completed game does not give you the option to create/share a short URL.
It needs to be consistent one way or the other.
- M
Sorry, am I not doing that exactly in the gif on the previous post? I start on the archive view of the game then click the analyze button? Sorry if I'm not understanding you
Interesting, but if I visit an annotated analysis report, for example https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/master/290740 and immediately try and share it the address presented is not a short url but https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/master/290740.
So if I revisit an annotated analysis report I need to make an edit and do a [Share], soon to be corrected to [Save], to have the short url available via the real Share. Doing so did yield https://www.chess.com/a/2Dc5SjN2AgQPk
Would someone please confirm you can see the bogus annotations.
Bug: I think the address provided by real Share in the Analysis Report should always be the short url as the long url isn't really a share.
Sorry, am I not doing that exactly in the gif on the previous post? I start on the archive view of the game then click the analyze button? Sorry if I'm not understanding you
What you're doing is different than what's at issue. You're using the "triangle" share icon, then copying/pasting, etc. I, and I think @jas0501, have been posting about the orange "save" and "share" button confusion. When re-directed to the analysis page via a completed game, users see this:
But when you open a blank analysis page and enter moves, load a pgn, etc. you get this:
So you've got a couple things called "share" (the triangle and the new button) and you've got buttons that are both similar in placement and appearance with different names, and different functions.
Clear as mud.
- M
Has there been a policy change regarding how analysis reports are saved? My understanding was the save was player specific. If I analysed and saved a game, mine or someone else's, if someone else did the analysis they would get there own version, not the version I created.
[Save] has the advantage of keeping any pet line analysis done by a player private. The change of the Save button to Share seems to imply a policy change. Please clarify.