Should I lose this game?

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Avatar of veni-vidi-vici3

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Avatar of veni-vidi-vici3

it is not clear to me why should I lose games like this only cause of opponents resignation...

Avatar of veni-vidi-vici3

I can clealry get over 60 just my grabbing some pawns (red had 6-7) and collecting the 2 kings, getting first place

Avatar of Martin0

Yellow should lose this game since he had the fewest points. And he did, sounds fair. happy.png

 

I think it is fair that the player with 60 points can resign against a player with only 14 points to win the game. 

Avatar of tal_morphy

yes. you should lose it,cause if you have few points,its sign that you didnt do much whole the game,while others worked hard.

Avatar of veni-vidi-vici3

@fukadzume in fact I am not complaining about the result of the game, I have too many games like this, but I am using it as an example of why I would change the resignation rules... 

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these situations, btw, are only caused by points system

in a "who stands wins" kind of match, there would be no such problems

Avatar of Clairvoya

This is completely fair, its part of the strategy...

In game theory terms, there's no incentive for him to let you pick up more points and get more than him so resigning is his best strategy in this situation.

While you bid you time correctly, and put yourself in a good situation, the drawback is that you only had 14 points, which is what you pay for by employing your strategy.

4 player chess is a complex and pyschological game with economic game theory applied to decisions, something you should have taken account of.

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I agree with Clairvoya here.

It was said earlier but would be worth confirming and maybe adding to the discussion. Did you sit back and develop while the others duked it out the majority of the game. Trying to guess it kind of appears that Green and Red went at it most of the game while Yellow tried to maybe spar with you and them just got rolled over by sticking their head out too much/to early. while you defended and developed then near end swooped in and took control of the game. If that is close to the case then I would say 1st-4th place is correct for 4-player chess. 

Avatar of stasonchik24

I see people make a very popular mistake here. They think that they are playing chess. They can't get rid of feeling that it is game where the strongest player wins, where everything is black or white, good or evil, 4-player chess brings you into reality, where there are allies and enemies. where you can be easily betrated by the player who seemed to be cooperating with you, and your enemy can turn into your ally just in couple of moves. It is more turn-based strategy game like Heroes)) But it really shows what kind of person you are. Don't miss the factor of psychology. And be good boy, trust people, but not too muchhappy.png

Avatar of icystun

Still only get 20 points if both resign before you can capture the other.

Avatar of veni-vidi-vici3

@clairvoya, @renegade_yoda I am not stupid nor a noob, I perfectly know that this is the best strategy for them under the actual rules, I am just showing this to ask if maybe a changing of the rules could improve the game and make it better

 

actually to be fair I know game theory quite well, and I have to say that if I had chat I could promise red a second place with 61 points if he let me get first for example, so this would have been the best strategy for both. the fact that chat had been blocked is in my opinion another problem that must be solved