Variants Server Suggestions [Post-4PC Merge]

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Use the backgammon doubling cube.   This would prevent trying to win by waiting out the other player.  Also, you wouldn't have to have such a tight time restraint.   Losing players would be motivated to quit rather than to hope for a miracle.  

 

Another variant:  If a better player misses a two move check mate (or three or x move check mate) then he loses.  

 

Another variant:  When someone gets a piece ahead, they have x moves to win.  This would keep players hoping for victories.  

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SouthWestRacingNews wrote:

Use the backgammon doubling cube.   This would prevent trying to win by waiting out the other player.  Also, you wouldn't have to have such a tight time restraint.   Losing players would be motivated to quit rather than to hope for a miracle.  

 

Another variant:  If a better player misses a two move check mate (or three or x move check mate) then he loses.  

 

Another variant:  When someone gets a piece ahead, they have x moves to win.  This would keep players hoping for victories.  

Not really feasible.

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This is Horse Chess. Its the exact same as regular chess except all pawns are replaced by horses, kings replaced by generals given monarch status, horses replaced by camels, bishops replaced by arch bishops, rooks replaced by chancellors, and queens replaced by amazons. As there is no pawns there is no promoting of pieces but if you can please code it so the horse can promote to amazon. I just got to say that this submissions process has been extremely painful. I don't know where to submit or how to create a post i dont know how to navigate forums and clubs and get in contact with member nor do any links to games. When i close this tab i will have no idea how to get back here nor if anyone responded to me unless i get a notification. Please fix the submission issue with a more straightforward process. Anyway please credit me for my variant.

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This isn’t 4PC specific, but I don’t think it needs to be to go in this thread, right?

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/suggestion-variants-ratings-on-user-profiles

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ATTN: GRABLE
I have a formal suggestion.


Currently, one can create analysis boards in 4PC. My suggestion is three-fold:

  1. Make analysis boards shareable by sharing a link to it,
  2. Make it such that you can toggle a switch on analysis boards to make them puzzles (it would be a nightmare to try to make embeddable puzzles like you have with normal chess, so maybe this will be easier), and
  3. Do this for all variants, not just 4PC.
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Arma-50 wrote:

Well, the vote is ultimately at the descretion of the custom games admins and testers. We only have so many.

 Also how does it become an official variant I'm curious. Official variant like bug house or atomic chess. Have yall added any in the past? Do any of you work for chess.com? 

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Ooookay, thanks to the helpful admins, this thread has been significantly cleaned up (thanks!) I've updated the original post with links to the relevant suggestions.

To @chiemelaakoma, and others who have mistaken this thread for a place to post or discuss custom positions: 

  1. https://www.chess.com/club/custom-variants exists.
  2. https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/new-position-workshop-testing-thread is where you can ask for feedback on your ideas.
  3. https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/requirements-for-submission details how to officially submit your custom positions.
  4. @qilp is the admin in charge of the NCV club, CGAs, and NCV Testers. If you'd like to ask about openings on that team, contact him directly.
  5. In order to avoid further off-topic discussions, please limit the comments in this thread to relevant suggestions for improvement of the variants server and feedback thereof. If you see others ignoring this request, you don't need to make it worse by replying or telling them to bugger off.
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grable wrote:

Ooookay, thanks to the helpful admins, this thread has been significantly cleaned up (thanks!) I've updated the original post with links to the relevant suggestions.

To @chiemelaakoma, and others who have mistaken this thread for a place to post or discuss custom positions: 

  1. https://www.chess.com/club/custom-variants exists.
  2. https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/new-position-workshop-testing-thread is where you can ask for feedback on your ideas.
  3. https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/requirements-for-submission details how to officially submit your custom positions.
  4. @qilp is the admin in charge of the NCV club, CGAs, and NCV Testers. If you'd like to ask about openings on that team, contact him directly.
  5. In order to avoid further off-topic discussions, please limit the comments in this thread to relevant suggestions for improvement of the variants server and feedback thereof. If you see others ignoring this request, you don't need to make it worse by replying or telling them to bugger off.

Thank you soooooooo much for stopping this elbarg!!!

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I would really appreciate a revisal to the variants that don't show open challenges. some, like fourplayer and atomic, have this, some you have to click a button, and some supremely annoying ones simply take you to a "custom game" page, like bughouse.

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Suggestion: Ability to name custom positions.

Currently, in the lobby, all the custom positions just say "Custom."

My suggestion is that in addition to saying custom, it would have in quotation marks a name which is assigned by the maker of the position. For instance, one that I made would say

Custom: "4P Gothic Chess"

so that people can get a feel for what the various custom positions are at a glance.

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The problem is admins would need to approve every name to make sure it's appropriate.

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Green_Sleeves wrote:

Suggestion: Ability to name custom positions.

Currently, in the lobby, all the custom positions just say "Custom."

 

My suggestion is that in addition to saying custom, it would have in quotation marks a name which is assigned by the maker of the position. For instance, one that I made would say

Custom: "4P Gothic Chess"

so that people can get a feel for what the various custom positions are at a glance.

YESSSSSS

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Suggestion: The ability to choose whether the order of players goes in a clockwise direction or counter clockwise direction just as we can choose who's turn it is.  So this would mean that we could have the order red, green yellow blue, instead of red, blue yellow, green.

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JkCheeseChess wrote:
acgusta2 wrote:

Suggestion: The ability to choose whether the order of players goes in a clockwise direction or counter clockwise direction just as we can choose who's turn it is.  So this would mean that we could have the order red, green yellow blue, instead of red, blue yellow, green.

...and how exactly would this change the game? 

You forget this is the person who is using piece walls

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Go back to the old 4pc standard that's what all of us want

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Ultra_Dark_Knight_Rising wrote:

Go back to the old 4pc standard that's what all of us want

imagine reacting to your own comment

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Currently, there is an option to promote pawns to 1-point queens. To my knowledge, that is the only 1-point promotion option available. Could there be a way to have a switch in the “mix and match” panel that (when flipped on) simply makes all promotions be 1 point, regardless of what they are? I’d like to make an FFA custom variant with promotion to 1-point chancellors and archbishops, but that’s not an option right now.

Thanks.

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The way the system was built, we can't change the point value of a piece, eg we'd have to add new pieces for a 1 point archbishop etc.

Maybe some day we can add support for dynamic piece value, but for the foreseeable future this won't be the case.

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Green_Sleeves wrote:

Currently, there is an option to promote pawns to 1-point queens. To my knowledge, that is the only 1-point promotion option available. Could there be a way to have a switch in the “mix and match” panel that (when flipped on) simply makes all promotions be 1 point, regardless of what they are? I’d like to make an FFA custom variant with promotion to 1-point chancellors and archbishops, but that’s not an option right now.

Thanks.

that would actually be a good idea unlike many others posted here

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spacebar wrote:

The way the system was built, we can't change the point value of a piece, eg we'd have to add new pieces for a 1 point archbishop etc.

Maybe some day we can add support for dynamic piece value, but for the foreseeable future this won't be the case.

I see. Thanks for the explanation. I'll find a work-around. wink.png