Visible Evaluation Bar when Playing Bots

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Avatar of charliedatil

I just posted this on the Site Feedback Forum and I'm reposting it here for better reach:
Why has the evaluation bar option been removed? It was an excellent feature when playing against bots!! Especially when the bot made a mistake and the evaluation bar shifted dramatically. In those moments, identifying the correct move isn’t always straightforward.

The evaluation bar on display when playing against bots serves as a helpful hint. It shows when you should think more deeply or look for a hidden tactic. The stronger the bot, the harder it is to find the best move, even after the bot makes a mistake. The same applies for our play, sometimes a bad move is not clearly evident and the evaluation bar moving negatively makes you think harder on why that move is losing.

Visible evaluation bar is really great for training and learning! All the custom challenge options were great too. Play with or without takebacks, play with or without evaluation bar, play with or without hints, etc. I sincerely do not understand why these options were removed as they allowed for different ways of trainning. 

Could you please bring evaluation bar option while playing against bots back? 
THANKS!

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DaRon-K hat geschrieben:

Should they bring it for live games or maybe like the accuracy doing play. I've seen streamers and it showed it.

Streamers like Hikaru edit the evaluation bar into their videos, they can’t see it during the life game. And if, it would be cheating since it’s engine-use.

Avatar of Ein-Schachspieler

Still, thanks for mentioning! I agree 100% that the eval bar was very useful and should be added back as a feature for bot-games. It is also very useful to learn opening theory while immediately practicing it. There should be the option to add and remove these tools anytime during a bot-game just like when you play against the Coach.

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And I think the same thing should happen to the arrows too, but the eval bar is definitely the most essential tool.

Avatar of Martin_Stahl

There are currently no plans to bring the other options back to the personality bots.

The standard engine bots have many of the options available still.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/help-support/what-happened-to-bot-customization?page=1#comment-126872746

Avatar of user_462521798

what abt eval bars for those observing games?

Avatar of Ein-Schachspieler
user_462521798 hat geschrieben:

what abt eval bars for those observing games?

This already exists. Even though the exact engine-line-option got removed too.

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Martin_Stahl hat geschrieben:
user_462521798 wrote:

what abt eval bars for those observing games?


That's only available in the Events section

It’s definitely available for Live Games, but not always. But I think only when you have a friend playing it’s not available maybe? Or when exactly is it available then?

Avatar of charliedatil

Hopefully new plans are made to bring them back. Bot custom challenge options and the evaluation bar option were really great when playing against bots. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Martin_Stahl wrote:

There are currently no plans to bring the other options back to the personality bots.
The standard engine bots have many of the options available still.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/help-support/what-happened-to-bot-customization?page=1#comment-126872746

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