Though I use neither, it stands to reason that you shouldn't have one without the other imho.
What is your favourite character class?
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With crit hits and fumbles? By the way, can I come play (lol)?
Jun 9, 2012
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#28
New versions are as inevitable as night following day (at least for the next few billion years here on Earth) but as far as I am concerned it doesn't matter what edition you play as long you enjoy it. I am sure that all editions have their pros and cons. Anyway there's no chance of me finding anyone who'd try a newer edition these days, I found that out when I tried 3.5. I'm afraid all of my mates are old and stuck in their ways.
Jun 9, 2012
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#29
I hate to say it, but I hope 5E is the failure I expect it to be & Hasbro throws in the towel. It's sad to see what's become of a once-great franchise.
Pathfinder (an evolution of 3.5) has been the top-selling RPG for several quarters now, and deservedly so. Their core rule-books are rich & high-quality, and their angle on the game is classic fantasy. Their "Golarion" world, modules & adventure paths (whose summaries I read in a weekly newsletter from Paizo) show vastly more imagination than anyone at Wizards can muster. (4E spin-offs of The Keep on the Borderlands & Tomb of Horrors.... Really?? Imaginatively bankrupt much? Meanwhile, the world of the Pathfinders is providing inspiration for novelists and even a new series of comic books.)
Anyway, AD&D, warts and all, was "official" for over a decade - likewise for 2nd ed. Nothing since has made it 5 years before getting replaced and the ensuing "edition wars" has divided the community (players & vendors both) that is the life-blood of the game.
So of course, I think that another edition only adds to the problem. I reckon the up-side is that there will be a mass exodus, as many people will here opt to get off the roller-coaster, and Paizo will enjoy even greater conversions over the next few years. In fact, the timing of this couldn't be better for Paizo. D&D goes into total upheaval mode just after PFRPG gets enough momentum to pass them in the marketplace. Should be interesting anyway...
Jun 10, 2012
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#30
Mike you keep saying how good Pathfinder is so I reckon I'll have to get hold of the books even if I never get round to playing it.
Jun 10, 2012
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#31
Wow just looked on Amazon and Ebay - the books aren't cheap!! I might wait a while before buying.
Jun 11, 2012
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#33
glafnazur139 wrote:
Wow just looked on Amazon and Ebay - the books aren't cheap!! I might wait a while before buying.
They aren't cheap, but they are nice... And hey, the Core Rulebook is a beautiful monster of a book that = DM's Guide + Players Handbook in one volume. :D
Anyway, you can get background here for free: http://paizo.com/pathfinder
Also, you can get .PDF versions of the books relatively cheap, if that won't drive you insane... But just check out the page samples and video here, for instance: http://paizo.com/products/btpy88yj?Pathfinder-Roleplaying-Game-Core-Rulebook
It's quality stuff.
Jun 11, 2012
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#34
Looks impressive and I must admit I'm sorely tempted. I only just made my saving throw there. Looking a them makes me twitch with desire after all there's nothing quite like opening a new RPG book.
I forgot about crit fumbles! yes we used them to offset the crit hits. it does add flavor to combat :D cant wait for a new edition i didnt like 4.0 at all. i think 3.5 is the best so far. i like the fewer saving throws there were to many in 2nd ed. also thac0 was a pain in the butt and didnt allow for epic expansion (ie no armor class better than -10 kind of silly isnt it?!). although i do miss the ravenloft and darksun expansion for 2nd ed. we modified alot of it to fit into 3/3.5 mechanics for the ultimate fun time!