World Cities Open Swiss - Rules

Point 2: Clarification of % - posts 25,26,27,29 relate

If the teams equal to the number of points the supplementary criteria are applied to determine standings:

a) Buchholtz coefficient and if it is equal, then

b) Summary percentage of points taken in all matches

All matches, which are not finished at the new season day, are declared won if a team:

a) has scored more than 50% possible points in the match (won mathematically), and if not, then:

b) has more than 75% ratio of the advantage vs the unfinished games

With less than 75% ratio the match is declared a draw.

Firstly, what do you mean by "summary % of points taken in all matches"?

Secondly, what does "

b) has more than 75% ratio of the advantage vs the unfinished games

With less than 75% ratio the match is declared a draw." mean?

How would it work in practice?

Perhaps an exampe please.

If the score difference is so small, the match is not decided, closer to drawn. I think it is logical. Anyway, this applies only to temporary scores. If the match is won by >50%, it is won.

Point 3: Timing Out clarification - posts 28 and 31 relate

G. Fairplay

If a player account is closed by Chess.com, all of his matches will be declared lost.

Example Scenario:

Player A times out in both matches.

Initial score is therefore A 0 : 2 B

Chess.com then close the account of player B.

Can you confirm that the points will then be adjusted after this rule to

A 0 : 0 B

?

Point 4: Clarification of the Referee Committee

Any disputes and claims connected to the above rules, their application, match results, player eligibility, any decisions of the TD, and other issues in connection with this tournament should be ruled by the Referee Committee basing on the rules above, best practices and common sence. Its ruling shall be final and definite both for the TD and the participants. 

Who is in the Referee Committee?

"summary % of points taken in all matches"

is like this:

Team A and B both win 2 matches

A wins with score 8-2 and 9-1, its summary % is 170%

B wins with score 6-4 and 7-3, its summary % is 130%

With equal Buchholtz, Team A deserves standing higher than team B

That sounds really good - I like it

"b) has more than 75% ratio of the advantage vs the unfinished games

With less than 75% ratio the match is declared a draw." mean?

How would it work in practice?"

Let us consider a match on 20 boards, by the cutoff Team A is winning 19.5 - 16.5 (this was the case of Kiev-Queretaro in the CWC5 participation round)

By the old "3 points advantage" rule the math is DRAWN

But Team A has a lot more chances to win it

(19.5-16.5): (number of games) = 3:4 = 75% it wins

My idea was to express advantage in %.

Maybe my wording was not exact. I should have said

has 75% or greater ratio of the advantage vs the unfinished games

"Player A times out in both matches.

Initial score is therefore A 0 : 2 B

Chess.com then close the account of player B.

Can you confirm that the points will then be adjusted after this rule to

A 0 : 0 B"

No. When you play vs someone whom you suspect timing out may be a good thing.

the score will be A 2:0 B

Another case is when both accounts are closed.

I have no opinion on this. I've heared people saying that 1:1 (whatever the result is) is best to keep the count of boards.

Ok

So if you have a 3 point advantage in the score and their are 4 points left to play for then those are used to create the ratio.

Where the teams have 19 vs 17 in points you would consider a draw as the ratio is 2 points to 4 points left (50%).

This seems a reasonable adjustment to make for unfinished matches at the cut off at the end of the season (Feb 2016).

Please can the mathematical win of  50%+ points won be added to the rules for the avoidance of doubt. Thanks!

No

Timing Out cannot be condoned in this way or rewarded.

If you suspect it, report it and by all means play slowly.

However this is chess with a clock - you cannot then ignore the clock later.

You cannot assume that player who cannot be bothered to play or who cannot manage their vacation time effectively is actually trying to outwit a cheat.

"London will not play in tournament where Timing Out is rewarded."

I don't see how it is rewarded. It is not punished.

I can also refer to the comment that ilmago made to Palmaer in that thread

http://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/el2015---rules-discussions

"Please remove the sentence

"However, a game lost by time won’t gain a point."

This favours cheaters, and indeed the only person who really and strongly had kept suggesting this rule has by now turned out to be a banned cheater.

And of course it adds an unnecessary complication for calculating the standings --- it had not even been correctly implemented in the standings for last season."

Yes - but this is not the European League. We don't want the silly 'clear win' rule for example which they have there.

There is no complication - change the rule to:

If a player account is closed by Chess.com, all wins and draws scored by that player will be subtracted from match score.

In all the fairplay adjustments where the match score is reduced then the score is reduced.

No increase is necessary for players who have Timed Out - chess.com has already adjusted the score for the Time Out and added the clock icon.

Point 5: Imposition of a Time Out threshold

 Under no circumstaces shall admins discourage low rated players to join their Team or remove any players, especially low rated, from their roster - unless they have a foreign country flag or already play for other League teams, or have above 25% of timeouts.

Why is the threshold for Time Out set at 25%?

This is an imposition on each team's SA as to how they wish to run their team - without their consent.

That's a very old discussion. Basically WL and EL and CL, i.e. any leagues where participants discussed that matter; all of them agree that cheating needs to be punished harder than you suggest.

I  can remind anyone some matches where an admin stuffed his team with high-rated players not bothering to check their integrity - only to be defeated when the results were recalculated.

Why combat timeouts at the competition level? It is a personal matter.

In your team you can have any regulation against timeouts that you wish: fire players, ban them, put on blacklist... whatever you like.

"Why is the threshold for Time Out set at 25%?"

Because as I understand it is set at this level in WL and EL.

Admins can remove players in that case, but they are not obliged to do so. 

Its not about combating Time Outs (TO) its about punishing the cheater.

The account is closed, reduce the match score to compensate as the Chess.com does not do so.

There is no need to add another level of complication by adding points on to the other team.

Cheating is also a personal thing - it is the player who has cheated not the team.

"Cheating is also a personal thing - it is the player who has cheated not the team."

If all admins act honestly - yes.

But sometimes it can be different.

any game when player A is honest and player B is cheater should be calculated as 2-0 no matter what

Sometimes player can be different, and dishonest, and there is no way of telling.

What if a non flag player vs a cheater?

Or a multi-team player vs a cheater?

"no matter what" is going to create a number of absurdities