The Block Bypass Thread!

He blocked me 3 or 4 times by now, one time just for relaying a scientific post by another user he blocked. Feel free to destroy his claims in this thread (other users similar to him seem to not be able to help themselves but to lurk around this thread), so your points will be seen. Anyone can post as many times as they want about any topic they want (as long it doesn't violate main site TOS) and will never be blocked!

Haha. I challenged him to imagine a scientific proposal that belief in the Many Worlds Hypothesis might correlate with mental illness and that a serious, scientifically-based study could be conducted on that very point. I think it blew his mind.

He's an example of a man who has an awful lot of data tucked away in that brain of his, which he doesn't know how to use. That is, his brain. He's like a schoolteacher, approaching senility, who protects his little teacher's pet even when he flicks inkblobs at the other pupils, but who looks unkindly on a novel and witty interpretation of the Illiad.

He couldn't even understand the difference between anti-matter power and perpetual motion machines. Earth orbiting the sun can be thought of as perpetual motion, but it's just that you cant extract energy from it indefinitely. (Actually its not really infinite anyway, all orbits in general relativity decay, no matter how stabke they initially are, due to gravitational radiation, after 10 ^ 150 years). He's obviously extremely mathematically inclined but has trouble with the finer points of net energy gain/loss and thermodynamics. I also have a whole great courses series on weather and I can say that some of the other people's comments about airflow and heat were totally wrong.

Elroch:

"I had never seen that thread but I am surprised it took so long to get locked!"

That's all you know Elroch! Locks and Blocks. And climate co2 clocks!

Well maybe you shouldn't waste your mind by spending it on insulting people.

You started off with a decent point about economics but then totally lost it in the last paragraph 🤣

Most hilarious interpretation of generational economics I've ever read, and even if it were true in some onion universe, that would mean one could buy a house in 2 years...if only wages increased by a factor of 20 while gas only increases by a factor of 2...what planet was that again?

It's okay to let the crackpots flock together...when other people see what this thread produces minus the mature posters (that is, nothing at all), they will learn to shy away from such things. I just came here to dispute the false accusations of "shadow banning"...

Case in point...this train wreck.

The forums are littered with train wrecks.

somewhere here op went that 75 degrees F average world temperature would be "when we should really start getting concerned"...

(all of this is rough estimates to show the stupidity of that statement)

thats almost 24 degrees C as the world average "when we should really start getting concerned"

(rest of this is in celsius)

so 23 is ok then?

currently its 15 degrees, so assuming (this is all rough) equal global temperature spikes, we have 8 degrees more than now is fine?

do you understand the meaning of "world AVERAGE temperature"?

its an AVERAGE, with certain regions being hotter and certain regions being colder

lets focus on the hotter regions...

i live respectably close to the equator and peak summer here rn is around 40 degrees average in the day (not night) for like 2 months

that would become 48 degrees celsius...

its NOT OK for an inhabited area to have 48 degrees celsius temperature throughout the day for the whole of may and a bit more

also im ignoring night coz people sleep at night, just the day is counted here

unless we should start sleeping in the day

and dont forget the people who would die due to rising sea levels

that post was anecdotal evidence and questionable scaling, but it should show the absurdity of your statement

and climate change is real btw

seasons here have apparently went wfrom (30ish years ago) actual spring, 3 months summer, then autumn/rainy season, some winter, and back 

to

early summer peak summer and late summer taking up 6 months of the year

3 months of off and on rain daily, escalating to happening in the day (not just night)

and then 3 months of actually decent weather

What insult would this be? If you actually explained what you mean, then your apparently mindless comment could be answered. I don't seem to have insulted him here. Just pointing out the obvious, in fact. He ain't as clever as he thinks he is by a very long way.

I'm afraid, Fester, that your interpretation of "raging" seems rather inaccurate. Either you don't know what raging means or you're deliberately using it to mislead people. That's the trouble with you. You do have a decent mind to some extent but you have no self-discipline. I reported your post for your verbal abuse against Endgame, which makes you a complete hypocrite as well as some other things.

I point that out (that you're capable to some extent of thinking quite well) because although I didn't read all your post where you were arguing against his belief in the Many Worlds Hypothesis; but only the first three or four lines; I could see that you have the right idea. The MWH is unscientific because not only is it a ridiculous idea in itself, it's also unfalsifiable, which makes it non-scientific. Elroch doesn't have a scientist's mind. He's not capable of approaching ideas on their merit, because he judges merit on whose ideas they are and on whether a substantial proportion of the scientific community hold them. That's why I suggested that a study could be made on a potentially negative correlatiion between holding such a belief and mental health. Such an idea as "Many Worlds" can be nothing more than fantasy and, what's more, it's based ultimately on a belief in determinism. Elroch simply doesn't have a good mind.

Many people don't have what I'd call "good minds" but most of them don't try to assert themselves over the opinions of people with far better ability than they have. Elroch is so used to talking down to people that he's no longer capable of imagining that he might be up against someone who can easily out-debate him. That's me. He doesn't come close and what he pretends are "scientific discussions" really equate more to a teacher talking to unruly children in an infants' class, and so, by and large, that's the type of person he attracts here. He only wants people who sit relatively obediently and defer to him.

Consequently, I'm rather surprised at you. I know you rather fancy yourself as a sceptic and so I wonder why you put up with him. And then I remember why you do.

"This has been repeated here numerous times. By you as well as others. It has been admitted and is obvious that any new technology has initial costs that eventually are paid back by lower overall profitability. If the petroleum industry wanted to, and they don't, the changeover to cleaner energy would not only be cheaper but faster.

You can't win a race dragging a dead horse behind your car."

As long as the general public doesn't have to pay a single cent to contribute to clean energy then I am all for it (even though I love warm weather). Until then no one is taking my gas fueled car and the public will never let the gov pass laws banning them. Typical comment from someone who is at an age where they have no need for a car and likely no financial burdens. They would have to chase me hundreds of miles at over 120 mph to take my car. I would not comply with such a law.

Locking topic. This is not a kind helpful or forgiving topic. Too many abusive and personal attacks.