Incredible toxicity in the chess community
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It's not just Chess.com, the entire internet is full of ugly, negative trolls. But here's an important piece of chess (and life) advice: pay no attention to those nasty, negative trolls! They mean nothing. Chess improvement requires a certain amount of hard work and self-discipline. And if you allow yourself to be distracted or discouraged by trolls and naysayers, you won't improve
Jul 25, 2024
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#683
Laskersnephew wrote:
FizzyBand wrote:
"People use their rating like some kind of social credit system"
Yeah that is basically how the chess world works like it or not, The higher rating you have the more respect you get
At least when you're talking about chess. And it makes sense. An IM is naturally going to have more credibility and get more respect when he offers his/her opinion on a chess topic. On any non-chess topic, forget it!
What FizzyBand is trying to say is that chess is too much about ratings. It's amazing how you and many can't see it or justify it. Of course, Federer's opinion is better than mine on tennis but tennis is a fun sport. People playing tennis don't care about ratings unless they want to turn pro. However, with chess even casual players are hungry and arrogant about ratings. Like one could chess with another and he or she would look at the rating or ask what's your rating. In other sports, we just play. Hard to explain, either you see or feel it or you don't.
Laskersnephew wrote:
It's not just Chess.com, the entire internet is full of ugly, negative trolls. But here's an important piece of chess (and life) advice: pay no attention to those nasty, negative trolls! They mean nothing. Chess improvement requires a certain amount of hard work and self-discipline. And if you allow yourself to be distracted or discouraged by trolls and naysayers, you won't improve
There are a few working together on Chess.com. That makes it a bit worse, especially given chess.com's rules. Psychopaths have no difficulty working within those rules whereas healthy people don't want to, which gives psychopaths a big advantage here.
Nay!
Jul 25, 2024
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#686
It may be true that there is toxicity in the forums, but overall I think it's a pretty good forum with more constructive conversation than toxic conversation.
Jul 25, 2024
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#687
IRL OTB chess there's practically no toxicity. The chess community is friendly and supportive. Very welcoming (maybe not so much when it comes to women but we are working on it). There are some occasional jerks, but really not that many.
It is the internet where things go haywire.
Optimissed wrote:
There are a few working together on Chess.com. That makes it a bit worse, especially given chess.com's rules. Psychopaths have no difficulty working within those rules whereas healthy people don't want to, which gives psychopaths a big advantage here.
Making up stuff about other people is toxic.
Jul 25, 2024
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#689
Chess is more toxic than other games? In CSGO for example, you can be yelled at by some random dude with a deep voice and thick foreign accent for hours. And the toxicity in that game isn't even close to what we've seen in mw2 lobbies. I've seen some truly disgusting behavior in other games that makes "heated" chess.com "arguments" sound G-rated. (Which they are supposed to be, since children frequently comment on this platform.)
The chess community is a lot nicer than the vast majority of playerbases out there. Don't engage with trolls, instead have fun with your friends and people who actually value you as a person. Have fun!
Jul 25, 2024
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#690
Depends on what you consider to be toxic. Offence is so easily taken today and often when it isn't intended. Often those looking for it will find it and does it really affect your day if someone is a little brusque?
The bottom line is this; hurt feelings are only hurt feelings and you will live. Just be thankful you aren't part of the war generation and you don't need to fear anything more than 'mean words' (whatever that means) on a silly chat forum. Just move on. Toughen up.
DiogenesDue wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
There are a few working together on Chess.com. That makes it a bit worse, especially given chess.com's rules. Psychopaths have no difficulty working within those rules whereas healthy people don't want to, which gives psychopaths a big advantage here.
Making up stuff about other people is toxic.
When it concerns you and you have been making things up about others on a massive scale. Finally you understand how others feel about you.
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DiogenesDue wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
There are a few working together on Chess.com. That makes it a bit worse, especially given chess.com's rules. Psychopaths have no difficulty working within those rules whereas healthy people don't want to, which gives psychopaths a big advantage here.
Making up stuff about other people is toxic.
When it concerns you and you have been making things up about others on a massive scale. Finally you understand how others feel about you.
I think you’re talking about yourself.
TumoKonnin wrote:
Optimissed hat geschrieben:
DiogenesDue wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
There are a few working together on Chess.com. That makes it a bit worse, especially given chess.com's rules. Psychopaths have no difficulty working within those rules whereas healthy people don't want to, which gives psychopaths a big advantage here.
Making up stuff about other people is toxic.
When it concerns you and you have been making things up about others on a massive scale. Finally you understand how others feel about you.
I think you’re talking about yourself.
And I think you are one of these "people" who appears when their master is losing an argument because more than one honest person is making the same case against him and his henchmen.
I'll go further. There is no honest person on these forums who would support him.
Also, if he will stop attacking me and others and stop attacking those who make good arguments against what he says, insulting them and lying about them, and if he will stop supporting his obvious cronies, then I will have no need to tell the truth about him. But while he tries to maintain his reign of fear, which is what it is since most people have a thinner skin than I do and they don't like being attacked by him and so they avoid him and never confront him, then people like me will be able to stop telling the truth about the way he is allowed to basically frighten people into pretending not to disagree with him.
I think the situation is more serious than many think and it is actually our democracy which is under threat. Democacy may not be the greatest way to run things but so far, we humans haven't managed to find anything better. I quite like the idea that everyone has a voice. Even ill-informed people, because that provides an avenue for them to engage with others and, hopefully, learn. But learning is not via coercion and threats. Those with different opinions and even those who are mistaken must not be closed down by making fun of them, being aggressive to them, lying about them and all the rest of the things these trolls try to carry out for political reasons.
It's understandable that no political discussion is allowed here. The same goes for religious discussion when it's understood how political and religious discussion have caused bad feeling and wars. However, it does make it very hard to challenge someone, who may seem to be acting as they are for political reasons.
id probly stop doing poisons if s/o could crawl thru my desktop wire & pop up behind me.
meanwhile ?...enjoy !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCChxBSRo1Y
Optimissed hat geschrieben:
TumoKonnin wrote:
Optimissed hat geschrieben:
DiogenesDue wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
There are a few working together on Chess.com. That makes it a bit worse, especially given chess.com's rules. Psychopaths have no difficulty working within those rules whereas healthy people don't want to, which gives psychopaths a big advantage here.
Making up stuff about other people is toxic.
When it concerns you and you have been making things up about others on a massive scale. Finally you understand how others feel about you.
I think you’re talking about yourself.
And I think you are one of these "people" who appears when their master is losing an argument because more than one honest person is making the same case against him and his henchmen.
I'll go further. There is no honest person on these forums who would support him.
Wow, describing yourself in detail is crazy
TumoKonnin wrote:
Optimissed hat geschrieben:
TumoKonnin wrote:
Optimissed hat geschrieben:
DiogenesDue wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
There are a few working together on Chess.com. That makes it a bit worse, especially given chess.com's rules. Psychopaths have no difficulty working within those rules whereas healthy people don't want to, which gives psychopaths a big advantage here.
Making up stuff about other people is toxic.
When it concerns you and you have been making things up about others on a massive scale. Finally you understand how others feel about you.
I think you’re talking about yourself.
And I think you are one of these "people" who appears when their master is losing an argument because more than one honest person is making the same case against him and his henchmen.
I'll go further. There is no honest person on these forums who would support him.
Wow, describing yourself in detail is crazy
I think optimissed likes to out himself...
Optimissed wrote:
Also, if he will stop attacking me and others and stop attacking those who make good arguments against what he says, insulting them and lying about them, and if he will stop supporting his obvious cronies, then I will have no need to tell the truth about him. But while he tries to maintain his reign of fear, which is what it is since most people have a thinner skin than I do and they don't like being attacked by him and so they avoid him and never confront him, then people like me will be able to stop telling the truth about the way he is allowed to basically frighten people into pretending not to disagree with him.
I think the situation is more serious than many think and it is actually our democracy which is under threat. Democacy may not be the greatest way to run things but so far, we humans haven't managed to find anything better. I quite like the idea that everyone has a voice. Even ill-informed people, because that provides an avenue for them to engage with others and, hopefully, learn. But learning is not via coercion and threats. Those with different opinions and even those who are mistaken must not be closed down by making fun of them, being aggressive to them, lying about them and all the rest of the things these trolls try to carry out for political reasons.
It's understandable that no political discussion is allowed here. The same goes for religious discussion when it's understood how political and religious discussion have caused bad feeling and wars. However, it does make it very hard to challenge someone, who may seem to be acting as they are for political reasons.
Quoting for posterity. I'm apparently Trump, in Optimissed's contorted little world where he makes political posts while trying to pretend it's the other guys...
A threat to democracy! Right here on the chess.com forums...be afraid.
Optimissed wrote:
Laskersnephew wrote:
It's not just Chess.com, the entire internet is full of ugly, negative trolls. But here's an important piece of chess (and life) advice: pay no attention to those nasty, negative trolls! They mean nothing. Chess improvement requires a certain amount of hard work and self-discipline. And if you allow yourself to be distracted or discouraged by trolls and naysayers, you won't improve
There are a few working together on Chess.com. That makes it a bit worse, especially given chess.com's rules. Psychopaths have no difficulty working within those rules whereas healthy people don't want to, which gives psychopaths a big advantage here.
You do this hatchet job on every thread you see the smallest possible opening for it, and it's a form of harassment...and about time the mods did something about it.