Best positional play book for 1800 player

Are you interested in selling your Baburin book?  You could scan it for  your own reference, and then sell me the copy or I'd even buy a scanned copy.

Samuel Reshevsky taught me that to use "Positional" and "Tactical" as opposites is wrong.  To decide on your objective, plan the strategy to reach it, and then use tactics to carry out that plan.

if you want it so much you would buy a scanned copy why not just download it?

Illegal I believe. I'd guess scanning it is illegal too.

I'd also guess that maybe that is the point you were making

I'll get my coat.

yeah but can you study positional chess just like that out of context?? isnt poisitonal understanding what you get when you master endgame, opening and middlegame play?

Positional chess is not studied out of context but rather through examples of middlegame (more often) or opening/endgame (less often). Just open any book on the subject and you'll see it yourself.

Scanning a document you paid for that is not confidential is perfectly legal. Distributing the scan is not.

Outrageous prices like this book tend to tempt people to bypass the law, which is unfortunate.

Amazon new $210.20, used $45.70.  Both of these come from sources other than Amazon directly, so there is also the very small risk of not getting what you paid for.  Having said that, price is no indicator of value with books long out of print unless you're a collector.

bypassing the law? i thought their were no copyrights for abandoned older literature, hence google books or whats it called.

I think what you say is true, but the book has to have been out of print for a very long time. Braburin's book won't have been out of print long enough.

Copyright 1965 and never reprinted.  Not yet 50 years old which is the normal copyright limit as I recall in the U.S., unless it is renewed.  It's only 191 pages so at over $1.00 a page, it's rather expensive.  It is not available from Google books, which links you to Amazon, which in turn links you to their listed sellers.  It might be a good book, but it's clearly a collector's item, and I'd be careful paying that much for a book that is 48 years old.

You may want to do your due diligence and/or seek the advice of a legal professional, but at one time, I had read somewhere online that books printed prior to 1963 were now in the public domain and therefore legal to access, download, distribute, even resell.

That may not be the accurate year so, again, you might want to look up what is public domain and what's not.

But, if it is now in the public domain, that means the public has the right to access it and do pretty much whatever they want with it.

cheers

U.S. copyright law is insanely long and complicated, thanks to the Sonny Bono Act and politicians who allowed it.  It is unclear how long a copyright is good for in the U.S. (read the details on the .gov website).  It is unlikely that the book would be out of copyright anytime soon, but it may be public domain under European law or lack thereof.  Lots of questions - is the author deceased, does the family own the copyright or a corporation, has the copyright been renewed, etc.

mldavis617 wrote:I love when people sell new 5-10 year old books

Outrageous prices like this book tend to tempt people to bypass the law, which is unfortunate.

Amazon new $210.20, used $45.70.  Both of these come from sources other than Amazon directly, so there is also the very small risk of not getting what you paid for.  Having said that, price is no indicator of value with books long out of print unless you're a collector.

i totally agree. Often its even the other way around and the better stuff is cheaper. Unless you live in Japan of course, there you usually get what you pay for.

There is always a problem about the books in there never says what masters really know and what masters really do. A book written for example by a FM generally says some usefull things. But not how this FM thinks during a live game. You should analyze your games in deeply and thats most effective than any book. If you found someone stronger than you and who really wants to help you better! For example an honest GM, IM or FM telling you how he think is unvaluable. 

Totally agree. Very good advise.

Solution?

He can get it scanned and sold to him. Just send the company the money for the book. All they care about is they get their cut. And if they do not have create an actual book and still make money they make available this way. They save material (Go green) and make a profit.

It would not surprise me if the publisher would adhere to the letter of the law and sue anyone who violates copyright by selling a scanned book as a pseudo-retailer.  Once a book has been converted to digital, it becomes effectively at risk for infinite reproduction in the blackmarket "public domain."  How many sales are lost or potential sales lost to an upcoming reprint?  Once the horse is out of the barn, it doesn't do any good to close the door.

If a person offered to pay how could they sue.... for spite. It is worse when a book is borrowed and they recieve nothing. If they are the source of the electronic copyies it is a good thing. As will be the only way to ensure the book/info is complete with nothing missing and high quality.

And when you get it from the source they can offer you a type of discount for future books of this type. Free or half off i rather get it from the source unless it was trusted friend or family.

And what they do when a part of it ...... a game is shown from the book. I say better to control it. Any many of these are recommended by other players to buy. I have bought a couple in the last couple of months from recommendations  of players i due not know other than here. Not sure how pirated sales match against this. I think you have to have faith that chess players may use unfair tactics but when it comes to info they rather have it from the source and throw in some benefits to secure loyality.