Chessnut Evo vs DGT Centaur

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Hello,

Anyone in a position to compare the two? Ignoring the price difference, they seem to be aimed at the same market - myself - someone who wants to take up chess again and improve their game. Both of them will beat me soundly, so I’m not asking which is the stronger opponent.

The Chessnut product seems newer, and from a developer seemingly more committed to home chess rather than competition-based products. Also, the Evo has the potential to be upgradeable via its connectivity. How does the build quality compare? I like the sound of the adaptable playing levels in the DGT - how does this compare to simply choosing a playing level?

I don’t need a full-size board and don’t mind the plastic pieces, I’m simply looking for a chess computer that feels ‘natural’ rather than using an iOS App.

Finally, are there any other products available or imminent better than these two which I should consider?

Any advice gratefully received.

Thanks,

Matt.
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I prefer Chessnut. Now I have Air +, but Pro with premium pieces is coming.
Evo is like Air with an iPad, too small for my needs. Apart from the size of an e-board, you have an excellent app and a great experience with Chess.com and Lichess. The app also has its own engine. 
DGT has one major flaw—it does not update the engine (OK, an estimated 3000 ELO is powerful) and does not export PGN files for further analysis. You can only analyse your play using a small right hand side LCD monitor. I wonder how you can use this LCD when playing black?

For me, this is a NO-GO.

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You can only analyse your play using a small right hand side LCD monitor

It is an e-paper display.

I wonder how you can use this LCD when playing black?

You can:

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CatOnChessboard wrote:

You can only analyse your play using a small right hand side LCD monitor

It is an e-paper display.

I wonder how you can use this LCD when playing black?

You can:

Thank you for your answer. I will buy it definitively if DGT ever reconsiders any easy engine updates and PGN export. 
I found how to hack Centaur, update it and export PGN files on the Internet, so the DIY project clearly shows it is possible.

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I prefer DGT

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I am trying to find anyone on Chess.com who has a working setup of the Chessnut electronic chessboard, which can actually move pieces for both the player and their opponent, apparently through chess.com. I was recently given one of these (the one with the large wooden pieces) but have run into challenges such as intermittened bluetooth connections, not all pieces responding, and inability to get moves chosen by the "bot" enging to affect the actual board. More importantly, I would like to try playing a live game (perhaps this weekend?) with another owner of this technology. I am not a highly ranked player at this time. I used to be higher but my score has declined as a result of an extended illness. I love the game and hope to gradually improve my rank. I am open to creative approaches such as 14 days per move, unranked, as well. But first, some debugging chats to get my Chessnut board and pieces actually working would be wonderful.

Thanks, Mark

mlmiller@learningtech.org

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Also alternatives: Millennium Supreme T2 (Tournament size online board with premium quality) and Chessup 2. I am currently also about to decide between these alternatives. I don't choose Chessnut Pro or Air plus because pieces are not weighted and the boards have just one led per square. Supreme 2 has the best material. But it's not portable as the other two and I can't use this board on my PC working table (I would have to put my 49 inch monitor away). If the supreme 2 came in the size of the Chessnut Air Plus or Chessup 2, I would go for the supreme T2 for sure.

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I have the Chessup2. I also have 2 more chessboards a walnunt one and a plastic one. The Chessup2 however is simply amazing. First of all, it connects with all the chess interfaces (chess.com, lichess) and also has stockfish! You can train against stockfish while it helps you using led lights. You can also play online against other opponents. I use all of them!

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I have a DGT Centaur and is super cool but honestely I prefer have the two Chessnut EVO here I come

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This is David i am deaf, has anybody seen the chessboard is called "https://computerchess.com/en/" and "https://www.ichess.one/"

i seen DGT Centaur and chessnutter!! lol! i just love internet geek all about chess variants stuff!

has anybody seen this

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https://www.quaternity-chess.com/testimonials

check that out!

i'm sorry if my english is bit rusty

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I prefer chessnut pro, it looks like full size wooden tournament set. The motion signal diodes are hidden and are only visible when they are lit. If you play OTB it is good choice.

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ah i see!

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demogomed wrote:

I prefer chessnut pro, it looks like full size wooden tournament set. The motion signal diodes are hidden and are only visible when they are lit. If you play OTB it is good choice.

That is the one I was given recently. It looks very promising but I have found that the Bluetooth works very poorly, if at all. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I have not been able to complete a full game due to constant disconnects after many hours trying to get connected.

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That is the one I was given recently. It looks very promising but I have found that the Bluetooth works very poorly, if at all. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I have not been able to complete a full game due to constant disconnects after many hours trying to get connected.

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@mlmiller - for the Chessnut boards, you do not connect the board to the computer or phone BT, the app will connect on it's own.

If you connect via BT on the device you will get inconsistent connections.

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@mlmiller

1) Enable GPS/Location on your phone (BLE scan needs this).
2) Grant Location permission to the Chessnut app.
3) Do not pair the board from your phone’s Bluetooth settings.
4) Open the Chessnut app, tap the Bluetooth icon in the upper‑right, and let the app find and connect to the board.
5) Make sure the blue LED on the Pro is flashing; if not, short‑press the power button to enable BT.
6) If the board seems “stuck”, power it off (hold the power button ~3 seconds; light changes red→green) and then on again, without USB connected, and repeat the app connection.

On Android: in the Chessnut app settings, permissions: location: “Allow all the time” (or at least “While using the app”). Nearby devices: Allow.
Background behavior: disable battery optimization for the Chessnut app (Settings → Apps → Chessnut → Battery → “Unrestricted”). This stops the system from putting the BLE link to sleep. If you have a "dual Bluetooth" or "dual audio", try turning it off while using the board. BLE is quite sensitive to environment: avoid large metal objects under or very near the board and strong 2.4GHz interference. Keep the phone/tablet/PC within 1-3 m of the board during play. Do a full power cycle of the board without USB attached and, if that still misbehaves, check for firmware updates in the Chessnut app. To rule out a defective board, test it with ChessConnect or WhitePawn (for Android). If nothin helps, consider USB as your driver (it avoids most BLE quirks).

Ciao happy

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How does the board work with iOS? iPhone?

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Rsava hat geschrieben:

@mlmiller - for the Chessnut boards, you do not connect the board to the computer or phone BT, the app will connect on it's own.

If you connect via BT on the device you will get inconsistent connections.

does it connect to the Wi-Fi?

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Raymond_Parker wrote:
Rsava hat geschrieben:

@mlmiller - for the Chessnut boards, you do not connect the board to the computer or phone BT, the app will connect on it's own.

If you connect via BT on the device you will get inconsistent connections.

does it connect to the Wi-Fi?

No, it connects via BT (that bit may have been confusing on my part, sorry), but the app makes the connection, it does not need the device (phone, tablet, or computer) to connect via the BT settings. 
As @Kromok2 stated, you need to turn on the GPS/Location and grant access for the Chessnut app. I do not remember having to do that but it has been a long time since I used the Chessnut app for anything, so I would follow his instructions. 
The boards and app work the same with both Android and iOS.

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On latest iOS, I do not see a place in the location settings to grant access.