Do any of you have Shredder Classic 3? Demo?

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stwils

I just downloaded the Shredder Classic 3 demo which I can use free for 30 days.  Do any of you have this?

I wish I had some kind of documantation or something to help me understand the program. It seems to be a very good program and I have enjoyed the little time I have spent on it.

What happens after 30 days? Does the program stop? Can you re-download it? I don't need the full version at this point.

If you have it, please tell me how I can get the most from this program. I really like it so far.

stwils

Royal_Fool

Well, first, by law you have to either pay or delete the demo after 30 days. You agreed to this when you downloaded and started using it.

You can find documentation on the Shredder site.

There are several free chess software programs you can download.

stwils

Well, if I agreed to delete the demo after 30 days, I will. Maybe I'll like it so much I will buy the full program. So far, I love it!  Just not sure about all that is going on.

I wonder if the documentation will tell me about all the colored arrows and everything.

Have any of you seen the documentation and if so, is it really helpful?

stwils

stwils

I downloaded the documentation. So far it is not helpful. Could someone tell me what the box to the right with different colors going up or down mean?

stwils

Royal_Fool
stwils wrote:

I downloaded the documentation. So far it is not helpful. Could someone tell me what the box to the right with different colors going up or down mean?

stwils


Yes, this is the histogram. It shows how the game is progressing.

From the manual: "An advantage for white is shown at the top, an advantage for black at the bottom. Green means advantage for Shredder, red for the human player. The black and blue lines show the time used per move."

So if you are white and you make a move and it puts a red block in the upper area you know this is gives you an advantage (depending on the height of the block). However, if playing white, you made a move and suddenly a green block appeared below the horizontal line then you know you've just made a mistake. The opposite is true, therefore when Shredder makes a move.

Once you get used to it you'll find it is a very useful tool to quickly see exactly where your game went wrong.

In the full Shredder you can import games and get the software to create a histrogram for that game, so you can start to learn where you lost or won a game.

You can read more about it on page 19 of the documentation. Hope this helps.

But I do agree the documentation is not brilliant, mainly because it has been written in English by someone who doesn't have English as their first language. It screams this with phrases like "Shredder is never clearing his internal hash tables"!

stwils

Thanks. That is helpful. I just played a game.And even though I had the red and green blocks, toward the end there was a huge block of yellow!  What is that?

I lost. :(

stwils

Royal_Fool

That was where one player is about to be checkmated.

If you find you lose a lot of games, you can limit Shredder's Strength in the Levels menu. Click: Levels|Limit Strength then put a tick in the "Limit Strength" box and adjust the slider bar below to a suitable ELO strength.