I need help to identify this Staunton set

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GrandPatzerDave wrote:
brasileirosim wrote:

It's ok thanks for your comment. I probably have to ask directly a chess collector who understand a lot the early Staunton sets.

You might try contacting Frank at chessantiques.com (see the "About Us" page). Sorry the forum wasn't more helpful - we sadly seem to have a sudden influx of kids and clowns and an absence of our old spirit.

Bruh i'm 13

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Bookiewar wrote:
GrandPatzerDave wrote:
brasileirosim wrote:

It's ok thanks for your comment. I probably have to ask directly a chess collector who understand a lot the early Staunton sets.

You might try contacting Frank at chessantiques.com (see the "About Us" page). Sorry the forum wasn't more helpful - we sadly seem to have a sudden influx of kids and clowns and an absence of our old spirit.

Bruh i'm 13

Then now's a good time to learn the lesson that some forums here are (much) more adult than others. If you don't have something substantive to contribute to a thread, please don't clutter the responses. Now go clean your room! wink

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Thanks guys

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GrandPatzerDave wrote:
Bookiewar wrote:
GrandPatzerDave wrote:
brasileirosim wrote:

It's ok thanks for your comment. I probably have to ask directly a chess collector who understand a lot the early Staunton sets.

You might try contacting Frank at chessantiques.com (see the "About Us" page). Sorry the forum wasn't more helpful - we sadly seem to have a sudden influx of kids and clowns and an absence of our old spirit.

Bruh i'm 13

Then now's a good time to learn the lesson that some forums here are (much) more adult than others. If you don't have something substantive to contribute to a thread, please don't clutter the responses. Now go clean your room!

Respectfully I was just trying to Help if I done anything wrong hen I aplogize

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This is such an intriguing design...

Back in the day to save on cost some British companies would do the top of the horse on plastic and the rest of the set on wood... so to save on the carving time of this piece and keep cost low... For their nicer sets they would do the same but with wood, outsourcing the carving of this part, usually to India. This would explain why this part of the knight is of different wood in all the 4 of them.

This is basically a classic look on vintage sets:

https://worldchesshof.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/ImprovedRoyalSet1900Crumiller.jpg

Then again, this was done on the cheaper sets, for the real nice ones they would carve in house the whole thing and there would be matching woods... but that is the explanation for the knight...

Now the rook... what is going on there? Did you lose the top on all 4 of them? or someone was trying to fix the problem of this tops eventually chipping away?

This rooks talk to me, and they say DIY... did someone bough the top of the Knights and then on a garage made the rest of the set?

Another clue is the top of the pawns... believe it or not, getting that ball round is not as simple as you would think, and as you see here... they are not that round. It is not a big deal, but... a professional craftsman making sets for a living should be able to figure out how to make that round... but then again... you can find some of the vintage sets struggling with this...

My guess about what this set is?

Until I get better details on the rooks... I am going to go with someone buy the top of the knights and made the rest of the set on their home wood shop as a fun project.

If we can get a better explanation for the rooks, then this can be a British set with the top of the horses made in India... no a top of the line set, but a mass produced for the common man.

Still a nice set, tells a cool story and worth of collecting and preserving.

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I think this set may be much older than we realize and its features are the result of well-considered carving/turning decisions rather than lesser craftsmanship.

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htdavid wrote:

This is such an intriguing design...

Back in the day to save on cost some British companies would do the top of the horse on plastic and the rest of the set on wood... so to save on the carving time of this piece and keep cost low... For their nicer sets they would do the same but with wood, outsourcing the carving of this part, usually to India. This would explain why this part of the knight is of different wood in all the 4 of them.

This is basically a classic look on vintage sets:

https://worldchesshof.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/ImprovedRoyalSet1900Crumiller.jpg

Then again, this was done on the cheaper sets, for the real nice ones they would carve in house the whole thing and there would be matching woods... but that is the explanation for the knight...

Now the rook... what is going on there? Did you lose the top on all 4 of them? or someone was trying to fix the problem of this tops eventually chipping away?

This rooks talk to me, and they say DIY... did someone bough the top of the Knights and then on a garage made the rest of the set?

Another clue is the top of the pawns... believe it or not, getting that ball round is not as simple as you would think, and as you see here... they are not that round. It is not a big deal, but... a professional craftsman making sets for a living should be able to figure out how to make that round... but then again... you can find some of the vintage sets struggling with this...

My guess about what this set is?

Until I get better details on the rooks... I am going to go with someone buy the top of the knights and made the rest of the set on their home wood shop as a fun project.

If we can get a better explanation for the rooks, then this can be a British set with the top of the horses made in India... no a top of the line set, but a mass produced for the common man.

Still a nice set, tells a cool story and worth of collecting and preserving.

Thank you very much, I really appreciate your help! Yes, somebody wrote in another thread about the weird rooks. I have (or had, as I sold part of my collection) sets with the knights like this. In one of the sets , top onion, the knights were make of another material than wood.

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GrandPatzerDave wrote:

I think this set may be much older than we realize and its features are the result of well-considered carving/turning decisions rather than lesser craftsmanship.

Thanks Dave. The set is certainly of high quality, no doubt.

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Hello Renato,
Try this link please:
https://www.britishchesssets.com/chess/index.html
Take care!
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ferpesan wrote:
Hello Renato,
Try this link please:
https://www.britishchesssets.com/chess/index.html
Take care!

Thanks!