For comparison, here's some pics of my Cantonese Ivory set which looks similar to Crumiller's Leuchars and Carl's prototype set. My last pic shows what a wonderful job Alany Dewey did making a replacement ivory cross for my white King.
Reproduction and Real Jaques of London Chess Set
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Mar 8, 2017
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#2023
wiscmike wrote:
You have to remember that sets of yesteryear especially from the 19th and early 20th century were not made so each piece was perfectly proportional to the other. Same with the boards vs pieces. Take a look at Marshall and others of the same time, how crowded the boards looked. This is what was in vogue at that time. Over the years the chess organizations changed dimensions etc.
That in itself does not make the antique sets wrong in proportions at all. It shows exactly how they were and most collectors like the original copies only because they can not afford the real thing. Most do not want altered pieces so they look more aesthetically correct.
I hope I am not the only one that feels this way.
I think OS has a very excellent replica of the set they are making. Of course back in the 1800's they could put out 100 sets and every 20 sets might look a bit different.
I myself kind of like the crowded look from the Cambridge Springs 1904 Tournament.
One thing constant is change but it doesn't make the older sets and board dimensions obsolete.
You have to love the rich history of the game.
Very well put.
Mar 8, 2017
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#2024
goodknightmike wrote:
For comparison, here's some pics of my Cantonese Ivory set which looks similar to Crumiller's Leuchars and Carl's prototype set. My last pic shows what a wonderful job Alany Dewey did making a replacement ivory cross for my white King.
Beautiful, Mike. Very similar indeed.
cgrau wrote:
goodknightmike wrote:
For comparison, here's some pics of my Cantonese Ivory set which looks similar to Crumiller's Leuchars and Carl's prototype set. My last pic shows what a wonderful job Alany Dewey did making a replacement ivory cross for my white King.
Beautiful, Mike. Very similar indeed.
Thanks Chuck!
goodknightmike wrote:
For comparison, here's some pics of my Cantonese Ivory set which looks similar to Crumiller's Leuchars and Carl's prototype set. My last pic shows what a wonderful job Alany Dewey did making a replacement ivory cross for my white King.
Yes Mike I was just thinking about it yesterday when reading this post. Especially the Ivory model on post #2119 the Knight is very similar. That Ivory set still with it's Pierre-Casquet ... writting santaclaus 
wiscmike wrote:
You have to remember that sets of yesteryear especially from the 19th and early 20th century were not made so each piece was perfectly proportional to the other. Same with the boards vs pieces. Take a look at Marshall and others of the same time, how crowded the boards looked. This is what was in vogue at that time.
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I myself kind of like the crowded look from the Cambridge Springs 1904 Tournament.
One thing constant is change but it doesn't make the older sets and board dimensions obsolete.
You have to love the rich history of the game.
Exactly right Mike. I think the photos that you remember were c.1907 images seen in the American Chess Bulletin, promoting the Lasker v Marshall match. Pieces were tightly sized for that board compared to what we now find proportional. Still I like the style.
goodknightmike wrote:
For comparison, here's some pics of my Cantonese Ivory set which looks similar to Crumiller's Leuchars and Carl's prototype set. My last pic shows what a wonderful job Alany Dewey did making a replacement ivory cross for my white King.
Alan does superb work!
Mar 8, 2017
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#2029
Boy,do I wish i could somehow delete my relative beginner statements about my obtaining a CB 1849 Authentic Staunton set and not being too concerned about period correctness! You fellows are passionate, knowledgeable collectors and I a "total" novice!
i'm appreciating everything I'm picking up here.
ElCanarion wrote:
goodknightmike wrote:
For comparison, here's some pics of my Cantonese Ivory set which looks similar to Crumiller's Leuchars and Carl's prototype set. My last pic shows what a wonderful job Alany Dewey did making a replacement ivory cross for my white King.
Yes Mike I was just thinking about it yesterday when reading this post. Especially the Ivory model on post #2119 the Knight is very similar. That Ivory set still with it's Pierre-Casquet ... writting santaclaus
I know what you mean Santi, very sweet!
magictwanger wrote:
Boy,do I wish i could somehow delete my relative beginner statements about my obtaining a CB 1849 Authentic Staunton set and not being too concerned about period correctness! You fellows are passionate, knowledgeable collectors and I a "total" novice!
i'm appreciating everything I'm picking up here.
No sweat, Magic, we're all on a learning curve (about something). Welcome aboard, enjoy the ride.
GM4U wrote:
Hi Lou
hmm im kinda stuck on the original proportions
Don't get me wrong, Carl, it's a great looking set. Producing reproductions that approximate the design and scale of famous original sets is a worthy endeavor and makes good marketing sense. It allows enthusiasts and collectors an opportunity to enjoy these sets without the cost and hassle of acquiring the originals, paying Alan Dewey to make the necessary repairs, and worrying about their safety every time you take them out of the box.
Authentic or reproduction (real or Memorex), whatever floats your boat. Personally, I prefer quality reproductions. Why? I can buy a half dozen (or more) reproductions for the cost of a single original in pristine condition. Cheap, cheap, you say. That's why I feed the birds.
loubalch wrote:
GM4U wrote:
Hi Lou
hmm im kinda stuck on the original proportions
Don't get me wrong, Carl, it's a great looking set. Producing reproductions that approximate the design and scale of famous original sets is a worthy endeavor and makes good business sense. It allows enthusiasts and collectors an opportunity to enjoy these sets without the cost and hassle of acquiring the originals, paying Alan Dewey to make the necessary repairs, and worrying about their safety every time you take them out of the box.
Authentic or reproduction (real or Memorex), whatever floats your boat. Personally, I prefer quality reproductions. Why? I can buy a half dozen (or more) reproductions for the cost of a single original set in pristine condition. Cheap, cheap, you say? That's why I feed the birds.
alleenkatze wrote:
goodknightmike wrote:
For comparison, here's some pics of my Cantonese Ivory set which looks similar to Crumiller's Leuchars and Carl's prototype set. My last pic shows what a wonderful job Alany Dewey did making a replacement ivory cross for my white King.
Alan does superb work!
Without question he's the best!
Mar 16, 2017
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#2035
Incase some are not aware we are currently runing a 25% site wide discount. We have this product which includes our solid mahogany box! on special at £349.00 plus a 25% discount?! limited stock available
Mar 22, 2017
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#2036
Delighted to have taken stock of our Leuchars Boxwood/Black chessmen. King side stamps and kings foot rim with our company name.
King Height 95mm
Base Diameter 45mm
weight of King 98gms
the set oozes quality and we love it!
We will retail these stunning pieces at £249.95 which includes a Storage Box.
they will soon be live at our site .
hope you like them as much as we do!
Mar 22, 2017
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#2037
GM4U wrote:
Delighted to have taken stock of our Leuchars Boxwood/Black chessmen. King side stamps and kings foot rim with our company name.
King Height 95mm
Base Diameter 45mm
weight of King 98gms
the set oozes quality and we love it!
We will retail these stunning pieces at £249.95 which includes a Storage Box.
they will soon be live at our site .
hope you like them as much as we do!
If there is any imperfection in this design, I cannot see it. Perfectly gorgeous.
Ever heard that self praise is no recommendation?
Mar 22, 2017
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#2039
If there is any imperfection in this design, I cannot see it. Perfectly gorgeous.
Thanks Chuck
Hi Lou
thanks for your input..the set is quite accurate, we have requested a modification to the knight head in keeping with the original.....
your king modification now makes the queen appear too large?
here is the set again with knight modification....
Carl, you're right. When I re-scaled the king I should reduced the girth of the queen as well. How's this:
Lou, I think the Queen now looks too big for the rest of the set.
I buy my Chess sets to play games with. I appreciate the exact reproductions. And the reproductions, especially by Carl, usually improve on the quality of the originals. For instance Carl's Piatigorsky set was redesigned with the sizes being much better for tournament play, today.
For playing aesthetics I do like the King being shorter as Lou mentioned. But in all honesty there are a lot of Staunton/Jaques reproductions already available to keep my playing tastes satisfied.