Serious Problem with V-Tek 300 clock.

bmk5140, why don't you like the H:MM.SS format? The VTEK uses this format. 

It goes to MS when you get under a minute.

 just returned mine to get it updated 

Guys, where to buy discounted V-Tek 300 and Chronos II clocks?

I wonder if a new version of the VTEK300 that fixes the freeze issue in the FIDE mode (and corrects a number of other issues with the clock) is in the works?

The rules for a clock to get FIDE certification state the following: 

"5.4.1. In approved clocks, when one clock reaches zero in an increment mode time control, the other clock does not run further and retains its last display. For Rapid and Blitz tournaments, when one of the clocks reaches zero, the other clock may be set to continue to run until it also reaches zero.

5.4.2. In approved clocks, when both flags fall down must be seen which flag fell first."

FIDE defines the term "increment" to include "delay". The FIDE laws of chess defines the term "increment" as: "An amount of time (from 2 to 60 seconds) added from the start before each move for the player. This can be in either delay or cumulative mode."

All of this shows that the clock should freeze for a classical time control with increment or delay. When it says "rapid and blitz tournaments", it's not clear whether it's referring to all rapid and blitz time controls or just those without increment or delay. Since the DGT 3000 clock is FIDE certified and it's preset rapid and blitz time controls with increment or Bronstein delay are preset to freeze, I'm assuming it's only referring to rapid and blitz time controls without increment or delay. The clock "may" be set to not freeze in rapid and blitz time controls without increment or delay but in these cases the clock must have a sign that shows whose flag fell first, which the VTEK 300 does not do since both sides of the clock simply show the words "TIME EXPIRED" if both players run out of time. Even though there is no fundamental difference in the way it's done (the clock freezing or not freezing and having a sign showing which side flagged first) since the arbiter and the players will be able to tell which side flagged first and report the outcome of the game accordingly, it's probably simpler just to have the clock freeze under rapid and blitz tournaments with no increment or delay. It also doesn't state what the clock should do for classical time controls without increment or delay but again, it's probably simpler just to have the clock freeze in these cases as well. 

Hate?!?

Getting old quick?!?

The topic is from 2017.  Micah is simply pulling it back up wondering about this clock being capable of FIDE approval.  There is no hate.  

Well, I guess you better quit coming here then.

I know Micah.  He is not a paid shill or anything like that.

You constantly act like there are a few conspiracies to skew the facts.  Well there are none.

You also are in the camp attacking people that want to spend more money on better product.

No one is trying to get you to spend any money on anything.  In fact I suggest that you do not buy anything but the lower priced products.

By the way, the V-Tek 300 cost the most of all Chess clocks, with only one, the Evolution, getting to be the same price.  I own 6 of the V-Teks, having bought them slowly since they came out.

You need to go attack and complain somewhere else.

And I have one other thing to say to you and the few other Negative Normans, MikeDoolzinski. 

Start posting positive things about products you own or want.  Post pictures and all.  There is no need and no good place for your unsubstantiated attacks and negatives.

Mike, eyechess is Shelby's cheerleader. No sense in arguing with him.

And you are?

And you own and/or use what Chess equipment that qualifies you to have an opinion?

Instead of telling us your opinion of who is on what fabricated side, share with us your viewpoint and opinion on the merits of the different clocks.

Rah, rah, Schmuck.

I know you probably won’t believe this but it actually was a coincidence. 

To be clear, I wasn't bashing the VTEK 300. I think the VTEK 300 is one of the best clocks and I'm trying to help make it even better. 

Wrong.  It is you that belittle people that spend more money on stuff.  And that’s not even a nice try on your part.

Actually, you need to stay out of your seat and go somewhere else with your nonsense attacks.

Ah, that is so.  But you are acting like a staph infection.  Now just go away and your problems will not change.

You insist on attacking and name calling.  Start a new Topic and show pictures of all the equipment you like, own or want.  That should keep you out of some mischief.

Unfortunately I just discovered another serious issue with the VTEK 300. 

Here is an example. The time control is 40/90,SD/30;inc30. A player has completed 39 moves and runs out of time. The clock will show "0:00.0" (or "0:00" if the tenths of a second are turned off) and underneath it will say "TIME EXPIRED". This is all fine but the problem is if the clock is in the US Chess mode (which automatically has the freeze off) or the Custom mode with the freeze off and you press the clock, It adds the second time control of 30:00 and displays "MOVES 40" underneath (all other clocks I am aware of will not add the 30:00 in this scenario). If nobody noticed the player ran out of time before pressing the clock, then no one will know the player flagged before completing their 40th move. If the clock is in the FIDE mode, it doesn't add the 30:00 in the above scenario but if the opponent then subsequently presses their clock, it adds the 30:00 to the time of the player who had flagged. 

Any thoughts on this issue? 

Shelby, Micah is right. Your clock is full of bugs and it is an expensive paperweight.

Read what Micah wrote. You didn't understand what he said and your answer has nothing to do with what he said. This clock is known for having many bugs.