Set used in 1990 Kasparov vs. Karpov

jimmerstoopy

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A8ezi61UaPI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DA8ezi61UaPI

Can anyone tell me what set this is? Sort of looks like HOS Club

FrankHelwig

There used to be a tradition of sourcing sets locally at important matches, so they used a French maker in Lyons. It's a Chavet set. I have one from that period:

FrankHelwig

If you're planning to get one, be aware that current Chavet sets have a slightly different design (most noticeably a different queen with a much larger ball on top). 

You can occasionally find older Chavet sets on eBay. I believe the Lyons set was the largest one Chavet produces (Tetes Fines, Weighted, 93mm King).

jimmerstoopy

I don't see why the new design is appealing whatsoever. All the elegance was taken out of the set in the newer design. I think I will just go for the HOS club wooden set.

9kick9

Thanks for posting the pics! Its a nice looking set.

Blitzt

Yes, very nice photo.  Thanks for posting!

Blitzt

By the way jimmerstoopy, the Chavet knights are quite different than those the HOS Club set. 

tliu1222

Okay

jimmerstoopy

Yes, ironically they appear to be German knights.

FrankHelwig

I've always been curious where the expression "German knight" originates from. I suspect it's a marketing invention by one on the North American online retailers?! I've never heard anyone in Germany refer to a "German" knight. In any case, the knight style of a horse's head with curved neck, upright ears and head pointing down is indeed prominent in a lot of German sets (see for example the old GDR sets), but so it is in French Regency sets, and I think you could call it "French knight" with equal justification.

Anyway, the Chavet knight is not glued on, but base and head are carved out of a single piece of wood. It's a lovely piece to play with...

ZaidejasChEgis
FrankHelwig wrote:

I've always been curious where the expression "German knight" originates from.

I have no idea about the origin of the term "German knight", but I like them. Mine is very similar as in the picture, maybe rooks slightly different.

9kick9

I guess everyone has their own tastes but, I like the new Chavet design buts thats just me. Can someone post a pic of the new Chavet design? Thanks!

FrankHelwig

Here's the old design:

 

And here's the new (current) design:

 
 
Main differences - King's cross, Bishop mitre and ball on top of queen...
jimmerstoopy

The heads of the king and queen on the newer set just don't have the same charm as the old ones.

ZaidejasChEgis

my looks like an older version (and I liked this design more than newer as in the above picture). Though the knight is more details. However I doubt that it is Chavet etc. It costed ~25E. Do you need a pic?

FrankHelwig
ZaidejasChEgis wrote:

Do you need a pic?

yes, please

ZaidejasChEgis

LOL

Now when I took pieces out of the box, so many different things popout :) Definetly mine are far from Chavet etc.

About 10 years old set from Germany with a portion of the original box.

9kick9

Thanks everyone for posting the pics! I see the difference now.

Ronbo710
FrankHelwig wrote:

If you're planning to get one, be aware that current Chavet sets have a slightly different design (most noticeably a different queen with a much larger ball on top). 

You can occasionally find older Chavet sets on eBay. I believe the Lyons set was the largest one Chavet produces (Tetes Fines, Weighted, 93mm King).

I am still amazed so very few of these Chavet sets from the mid 90's have surfaced since your post here Frank. Glad to have secured mine happy.png 

chessroboto

I agree and am saddened by the difficulty to own the 90s WCC designs.

I can only take comfort with the thought that the DGT timeless pieces share a lot of similarities in the design.