Ideally, it should let you set regular (playing) contempt and analysis contempt separately.
Stockfish 9's "Contempt 20"
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since contempt 20 has now become "master", any eventual "new" laws of chess "discovered" through the large statistical data sets of Fishtest will now be unreliably tainted by those pesky 20 centipawns !
Real shame !
Stockfish, the "poor man's" engine, was the closest thing to natural selection applied to chess apart from the reclusive Alphazero.
Shame the developpers succumbed to the pressure of only placing in TCEC and losing to the server farm that is Alphazero.
Yet another open-source project starts to care about its results...commercial aspirations maybe !? naaaaa
Feb 4, 2018
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TheTreeSurgeon wrote:
Yet another open-source project starts to care about its results...commercial aspirations maybe !? naaaaa
I could be wrong, but I don't see that happening with Stockfish. If they closed the source, they would lose most of the contributors to improvements.
EscherehcsE wrote:
Ideally, it should let you set regular (playing) contempt and analysis contempt separately.
I agree. Maybe this will be implemented at some point. For now, I have 2 configurations for Stockfish. One with the default setting (contempt 20) and another with contempt 0.
Feb 6, 2018
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Crappov wrote:
EscherehcsE wrote:
Ideally, it should let you set regular (playing) contempt and analysis contempt separately.
I agree. Maybe this will be implemented at some point. For now, I have 2 configurations for Stockfish. One with the default setting (contempt 20) and another with contempt 0.
Another option is to use Cfish 9, which has a separate "analyze contempt" setting that you can leave unchecked. Either way is good.
https://github.com/syzygy1/Cfish/releases
I am sad to see stockfish moving away from analysis (contempt 0) to winning games.
I suppose future progress, including the engine's internal "chess rules", "evals" and "whatevers", will now be built and tested against the currently "contemptuous" engine, compounding "optimism" into "delusion" !