Looks like the Colle or London system. Not sure how to handle it as black.
1. d4 d5 2.c3
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Can also go into a Stonewall. Can't really say what to do until a few more moves have been played.
Kingscrusher has a few videos on the "Reversed Slav," which results in the same pawn structure. You should consider watching it.
But like what Uhoh said, 2.c3 move is rather passive, allowing black to comfortably develop, castle, etc. In other words, you shouldn't be concerned too much about figuring out how to counter this particular opening. Playing against it normally should the job done.
AnthonyCG wrote:
It's actually innacurate imo. Black now has 2...Nc6! 3.Nf3 f6 and White can't stop the quick e5 push. If White had played e3 instead this probably wouldn't work.
4.Bf4 can stop the e5 push. Moreover, black's 3.f6 looks like an unnecessary pawn advance that weakens the kings side and takes away the f6 square from the kings side knight. Also, I would delay moving the queens knight to c6 to leave the option of advancing the queens pawn to flank the center.
AnthonyCG wrote: This actually leads to a position similar to the Trompowsky. Black can play 4...g5 5.Bg3 g4 6.Nd2 e5. Although Black's kingside "looks messy" White has no way to take advantage of it.
You're right, white looks too cramped to crash into black's open kingside.
uhohspaghettio wrote:
By using your initial 1. a3 to your advantage at some point? If not then it doesn't count, you're just handing your opponent the first move.
What he means is this:
I play 1. e4 and I do not play the slav against d5. If white suckers me into playing the white side of the slav I could get into trouble because I know nothing about it while he is well versed in the opening.
Sure it may not objectively be best but since when is being black a decisive disadvantage? I would venture that the pratical benifits outweigh the theretical costs up to a fairly high playing level. You have to be careful that you don't give them white in a system that they know.
I should have phrased it "I think what he means is:". I get my knowledge of what he means by my reading conprehension skills.
That's still not good enough!
AndyClifton wrote:
That's still not good enough!
For uhoh nothing ever is.
Mar 12, 2012
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#12
Uh, i'll just go with the colle guys. Don't get into a fight. Please.
AnthonyCG wrote:
It's actually innacurate imo. Black now has 2...Nc6! 3.Nf3 f6 and White can't stop the quick e5 push. If White had played e3 instead this probably wouldn't work.
If Black reacted so, then I would always play 2.c3, no question about that!
AnthonyCG wrote:
Kens_Mom wrote:
AnthonyCG wrote:
It's actually innacurate imo. Black now has 2...Nc6! 3.Nf3 f6 and White can't stop the quick e5 push. If White had played e3 instead this probably wouldn't work.
4.Bf4 can stop the e5 push. Moreover, black's 3.f6 looks like an unnecessary pawn advance that weakens the kings side and takes away the f6 square from the kings side knight. Also, I would delay moving the queens knight to c6 to leave the option of advancing the queens pawn to flank the center.
This actually leads to a position similar to the Trompowsky. Black can play 4...g5 5.Bg3 g4 6.Nd2 e5. Although Black's kingside "looks messy" White has no way to take advantage of it.
1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5!? is the Tromposki!
gyrados_2002 wrote:
Uh, i'll just go with the colle guys. Don't get into a fight. Please.
What kinda attitude is that for the forums?!
AnthonyCG wrote:
What is so great about White?
Black's 3...f6, as well as the logic of the opponent who decided to punish an unassuming move by self-weakening. These two things together give white a large advantage.
Mar 16, 2012
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#17
i used to play 1.c3 when I was 9 or something, most guys would play e5 and I transed into a sicilian, or there were some who played d5 and I played d4
You don't need a computer here to see that this ...f6 idea is positionally dubious. I will just mention that a few GM's after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nc6 instead of the usual replies (3.c4, 3.g3 and 3.Bf4) play 3.c3!? and have pretty good results.
That ...f6 idea amounts to very little, even with a whole tempo up. Just watch:
After that 3...f6 white can simply play 4.Nbd2 (sort-of-threatening e2-e4) e.g. 4...e5?! 5.de5 fe5 6.e4, unless Black moves his c8 Bishop first, when Qb3 is quite annoying. Of course 4.Bf4 is also quite reasonable.
uhohspaghettio wrote:
pfren shows a lot of quality by doing this without checking some computer program.
Checking a computer about the 3rd move? That's a bit dubious itself.
Can anyone give me the name of this opening? Also, can you give me some information on how to play against it as black?
Thanks,
gyrados_2002