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I play the Taylor system, and it doesn't seem like black has a way to force an advantage. Maybe a tiny edge, but nothing big like in some more obscure gambits.

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Veganomnomnom wrote:

What line do you think is better for Black?

There is probably more than one line for Black to obtain some advantage vs the Smith Morra Gambit Accepted.  This is one possible line...



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rychessmaster1 wrote:

We were never talking about smith morra so stop talking and go back to blackmier diemier

ok  There have been two lines given for Black which would make it very hard to play White at a level above 1900 or so.

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I think 5...g6 vs the BDG is the critical line.

Which is the moves Pfren showed.

 

Against the Scandi

I think 2.exd5 is the critical line.

 

As for the Smith Morra

I prefer the below line


 

 

From a general point of view Gambit and Unsound lines are fun to play when your opponent has no idea what you are doing.

Which I think is why a lot of players like those type of lines because of the attraction.

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Good luck playing nd5 vs the Taylor system. 1. E4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 dxc3 4.Nxc3 Nc6 5. Nf3/Bc4 d6 6. Nf3/Bc4 a6. If 6.Qe2 then 6..Bg4! If 6. H3 then e6. If 6.Bf4 then e6 or even 6..e5!? is interesting.

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What is that c3 qa4 mean
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ponz111 wrote:

Dark Falcon   I am not saying the line with 1. d4  d5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. e4 dxe4

5. f3  Bf5 is the very best line against the Blackmar Deimer Gambit--am just saying Black gets a clear advantage.

Here is one example:

 

9.Bd3 leaving room for the Queen to retreat to f3.

The bishops come off, Black plays c5 at some point, White plays Nf3 at some point... White equalized material so we can afford trades.

Not an ambitious ending for the first player to move, perhaps the ass-end of a drawn endgame. Such is the risk with gambits. But next time against the same player you can try 5.g4 -- where there are several viable 6th moves for White, and go for the full point with something they're likely not prepared for.

 

Pfren's Bogoljubow line is much more serious, in my opinion. I agree with him that 6.Bc4 is in a theoretical cul-de-sac at the moment. The lines posted here illustrate that well enough. I think 6.Bf4 is the better choice (by far). As for the theoretical viability of 6.Bf4... In a correspondence position, I don't know. I'm sure Black has resources to defend, and I think White can't get the pawn back without conceding winning chances more or less. OTB it would be quite difficult though, as White always wins the race, when Black can't stir up enough trouble in the center to derail White's attack before it starts.

 

Another critical line that's been circulating the BDG boards is 1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3 c6 5.Bc4 b4!? in the O'Kelly, which I wouldn't be surprised if some GM recommended it in a d4 book and it became trendy in a few years.

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rychessmaster1 wrote:

It means 1 e4 d5 2 c3 dxe4 3 Qa4+

it was meant to be a joke