1. E4 e6. 2. D3 e5

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Evilution

What's wrong with this move order for black?  Black loses a tempo, but he/she also avoids having to know any k.I.a. formations.  Seems like a playable bypass.

lostpawn247

If you're afraid of KIA formations, play 1...e5. Playing 1.e4 e6 2.d3 e5 does allow 3.d4 or even 3.Nf3.

blueemu
Evilution wrote:

What's wrong with this move order for black?  Black loses a tempo, but he/she also avoids having to know any k.I.a. formations.  Seems like a playable bypass.

You don't mind playing the White side of a Hanham Philidor or a King's Indian TWO moves down?

king5minblitz119147

You are allowing 3 d4 leading to gambits which require study, probably more than you would in the kia. Also the philidor reversed is tricky and requires a lot of prophylaxis for your side. I think learning one line in the kia vs French is less work. You can dig those dxe4 lines if you hate the e5 lines a la fischer myagmarsuren.

darkunorthodox88

lol, at this tranposition to the nimzowitsch defense 

 

what i was thinking



icebearchess232012

???

 

sndeww

To the OP... it is very playable if you like being down a tempo for no reason. I think white should take advantage of that immediately, and play f4:

The problem with your tempo loss is that it gives white an "extra move", basically, and white has no problems getting a nice edge.

Evilution
king5minblitz119147 wrote:

You are allowing 3 d4 leading to gambits which require study, probably more than you would in the kia. Also the philidor reversed is tricky and requires a lot of prophylaxis for your side. I think learning one line in the kia vs French is less work. You can dig those dxe4 lines if you hate the e5 lines a la fischer myagmarsuren.

Acknowledged.... never thought of this as an everyday choice... maybe only good for 1 or 3 minute blitz....maybe I'm thinking more along the lines of 1. e4  e6  2. Qe2  e5--- this is a better way than my first suggestion.