1. Nf3 c5

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jtt96

What to do after that?



MSC157

I play c4, but you can also continue with 2.d4 or 2.g3.

In my games:



OldHastonian

Play 2.e4 and a Sicilian can ensue.

jtt96

Hmmm. I asked because I just played a couple blitz (5 min.) games and my opponent played that. I didn't have much time to think and I ended up losing those games after blundering half my pieces. :/ I was actually playing d4:



jtt96
AcivilizedGentleman wrote:

you REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY arent on the level to play reti. Stick to e4 and learn how to play chess.

I know, but with that logic I'll never be able to play it. :) I have fun with it, so I'm going to stick with it even If noone can tell me how to play it. :)

gattaca
AcivilizedGentleman wrote:

you REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY arent on the level to play reti. Stick to e4 and learn how to play chess.

And what's the level to play Reti?

jtt96

As you said, I'm not good enough to say that it is the best move, but I can surely say that I think it is the best move. As for the reason, I've done better and enjoyed the position more in games where I did that than in games where I played a different move.

jtt96

:)

gattaca
AcivilizedGentleman wrote:
gattaca wrote:
AcivilizedGentleman wrote:

you REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY arent on the level to play reti. Stick to e4 and learn how to play chess.

And what's the level to play Reti?

The level where you can't play for a win simply by looking at checks and hunting queens.

I don't think one should wait until reaching a certain level before playing some opening. If one likes an opening, then he should just play it. You learn better when you like what you do.

I remember when I started earlier among beginners to learn the Queen Gambit, the Catalan and the Queen Indian. Even if these were among the preferred openings of chess champions, I don't think I should have wait to reach their level before learning it.

TonyH
pfren wrote:

Learn to play something simple, and not something that can transpose to a dozen of different openings (which is the case with the Reti).

+1000

I totally agree the key is to gain experience in certain key structures. how can you learn something that constantly morphs into a large number of structures and ideas.  hyper modern systems were designed by very strong players that already had a good grasp of the standard structures and where trying to achieve them in a round about manner.

play the tarrach defense its simple to wrap your head around, straight foward, active and easy start to play but good enough for GMs. (http://www.chessvibes.com/reviews/review-the-tarrasch-defence)

jtt96
Estragon wrote:

What exactly is the benefit you see in playing an opening move that leaves you wondering what to do on move TWO?

How can you possibly enjoy playing a line where your knowledge ends with the first move?  As IM pfren notes, there are several main line openings the game could transpose into, how can you choose if you don't know something about all of them?

Do yourself a favor and learn the simple stuff first, and save the more complicated problems for later.

lol, sorry for ignoring good advice, but I think I'm going to keep doing what I enjoy.

TonyH

ignorance is bliss 

Last_Sire03

You should just look up videos about this opening on youtube if you really want to learn it. (But I recommend you to play simpler openings first.)

TonyH

ok fair point this is why we are saying you should play a more mainline opening like d4 or e4. 

the point is because your holding off on playing a pawn to the center your pawn structure is more varied as is your opponents,.. varied structure means varied plans and development of pieces depending on small features in the position that could change each move. 

when you try to play 'tricky' you end up just sort of tricking yourself more often than not. your Nf3 could be a queens gambit, it could be a reti it could be a reversed siclian it could be a lot and which move is best is really hard to figure out. 

play 1 d4 and 2 c4 as white and sort out that first then move on

magicwizard101

Well what do you want to play ?!

jontsef
TonyH wrote:

ok fair point this is why we are saying you should play a more mainline opening like d4 or e4. 

 

the point is because your holding off on playing a pawn to the center your pawn structure is more varied as is your opponents,.. varied structure means varied plans and development of pieces depending on small features in the position that could change each move. 

when you try to play 'tricky' you end up just sort of tricking yourself more often than not. your Nf3 could be a queens gambit, it could be a reti it could be a reversed siclian it could be a lot and which move is best is really hard to figure out. 

play 1 d4 and 2 c4 as white and sort out that first then move on

That's a reversed-reversed-Sicilian.

TonyH

i didnt show every option for my list of possible structures, Just that its possible for white to play c4 and black to play something like Nc6 and e5 .. 

magicwizard101