nice game, Ne5 is definitely leads to nice aggressive lines
1.e4 c5 2.Bc4 Nc6 3.Qf3!$#@
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Sep 16, 2010
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Today is my office colleague's birthday so I paid him back with his own opening. This has no heuristic value. None. Look for no lessons here.
We played another one this morning too, right after I read one of the front page articles on Nakamura's 1. g6 opening
Yes, I feel better now.
1. e4 c5 2. Bc4?! why? Nc6! 3. Qf3?? please look ahead more than 1 move Nd4!! now white threatens to take the Queen and Nxc2+ followed by Nxa1 so the Queen has to retreat to d1 4. Qd1 after which Black simply has a won game due to these lost tempo moves Nf6 etc. -/+
- Surdan
Nov 1, 2010
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ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:
What about ...Ne5 exchanging off the Bc4; seems logical to me, likely gives equality.
This.
Although I almost always go with 2... e6 vs an early Bc4. Chewing on granite.
Nov 1, 2010
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jhbchess wrote:
Thanks Oz, I'll give Ne5 a shot. Failing that, I'll fire him.
Reason #6,293 one should never socialize with the boss . . . 
what's wrong w/ 3.... kt- e5 ???????
Nov 1, 2010
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#29
willmorrisusa wrote:
what's wrong w/ 3.... kt- e5 ???????
????? Who says anything is wrong with it? Almost every single person has already said it looked good.
dnleary wrote:
heinzie wrote:
1. e4 c5 2. Bc4?! why? Nc6! 3. Qf3?? please look ahead more than 1 move Nd4!! now white threatens to take the Queen and Nxc2+ followed by Nxa1 so the Queen has to retreat to d1 4. Qd1 after which Black simply has a won game due to these lost tempo moves Nf6 etc. -/+
- Surdan
It's far from a won game. White will take a tempo with c3 and have a nice presence in the center
Thanks for taking the time to go through and correct my analysis :p
heinzie wrote:
1. e4 c5 2. Bc4?! why? Nc6! 3. Qf3?? please look ahead more than 1 move Nd4!! now white threatens to take the Queen and Nxc2+ followed by Nxa1 so the Queen has to retreat to d1 4. Qd1 after which Black simply has a won game due to these lost tempo moves Nf6 etc. -/+
- Surdan
Hmmmmmmm 1 e4 c5 2 Bc4 Nc6 3 Qf3 Nd4 ?? 4 Qxf7 # or 4 Bxf7 #
What are y'all smokin ?!!
End he thought that he figured it all out, oh why is f7 so weak? Nd4 looked so good. 
I'm glad you are enjoying my Surdan impersonification for which I practiced for so long
...Ne5, then take his bishop. That will throw him for a loop while you develop your pieces.
I personaly perfer playing 1.e4 c5 2.Bc4 Nc6 3.Qf3 e6 4.Nc3 Nd4 attacking the queen and the d2 pawn . If white dosen't protect it than take the pawn and fork the king and the rook!
1.e4 c5 2.Bc4 Nc6 3.Qf3?! Ne5!
I had my chance to play Ne5 today and it worked out nicely, albeit a bit delayed: