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1.e4 e5 2. Bc4 how to respond on that?

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pfren
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Dec 3, 2015
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#41
BelovedStalin wrote

Oh..., so cute. At least, now we know why you are in those IMs that talk about theory like GMs but, do not reach +2,400 FIDE rating (like normal IMs do). 

 

 

 An illiterate could search the FIDE site for actual player details.

A moron would not be a able to type "FIDE" at the Google search, though...

drawingdroidfish
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Fiveofswords wrote:

the funny thing about this 2...h6 thing you are speaking of...where you want to prevent a white b or n from getting to g5....is that in the bishops opening white almost never puts anything in g5 anyway. it might be more likely from an italian game (and even then the loss of time from playing h6 does not compensate...white could simply go d4 and open the position with 2 extra tempi) but in the bishops opening white is more likely to play something like f4.

But don't you know, 2...h6 also prepares ...g5 to clamp down on any f4-ideas by White.

pfren
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Dec 3, 2015
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#43

Hopeless case... a new x_patzer_x is born.

drawingdroidfish
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#44

A. Did you not get the memo about 3...c6
B. 3...Nc6 4.Bg5 is nothing to fear (sorry no time to analyze, but 4...Be7 is my first instinct) -- 4.Nf3 transposing to an Italian, or 4.Nc3, give White much better prospects.

drawingdroidfish
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#45
BelovedStalin wrote:
pfren wrote:

Hopeless case... a new x_patzer_x is born.

 

Amazing how stupid is people and how pedantic could be a person with a FIDE, like it was a certificate to think you are better than the rest of world or something. 

1. You did not suggest a refutation to take advantage in the position when it is clearly drawn! (even with your line) 

Clearly drawn, what a laugh.  pfren could probably beat you in blitz playing 3.Bxf7+

MarcoBR444
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Dec 3, 2015
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#46

Well, I am enjoying this thread, very funny.

drawingdroidfish
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#47
BelovedStalin wrote:

In fact. Why don't play the game against me? 3/0 would be enough to whack your chess analysis.

3/0 is not chess.  You want to test 2...h6?  I have a 2450 performance rating in one of my tournament sections at the engines-on server ficgs.com (and a 2000+ correspondence rating from 30 years ago, in case the "engines-on" bit makes you want to call my rating into play for the umpteenth time) -- playing over there would come much closer to revealing the truth.

JMB2010
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#48

I actually remember analyzing 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 h6 and concluding that the stats were misleading and that it's not that terrible for black.

drawingdroidfish
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JMB2010 wrote:

I actually remember analyzing 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 h6 and concluding that the stats were misleading and that it's not that terrible for black.

"not that terrible" is far from a ringing endorsement.  Doesn't White just blast the center open with 4.d4 (or maybe after castling)  That's always why 4...h6 has seemed more playable to me after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.d3 -- White has already spent a tempo moving the d-pawn one square.

drawingdroidfish
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#50
BelovedStalin wrote:
it would be enough to

b) Avoid cheating.

Go do yourself

blitzcopter
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#51

I'm not sure how much this has been mentioned but 3...c6 (after 1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Nf6 3. d3) is definitely the critical test. White has a pretty straightforward plan of playing f4 and developing everything behind that, unless Black can counter well with ...d5. It seems more advantageous than many people are willing to believe.

Other possibilities are 3...d5 (works out badly tactically) and 2...c6 where White has the option of an immediate d4 since Black can't play ...Nc6.

drawingdroidfish
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#52
BelovedStalin wrote:

@Drawingdroidfish: Indeed, but you know it is correct. It does not make sense you come here like a chess doctor, but, do not want to play a simple -even unrated- blitz games, showing me, not your skills at middle game or endgame, just, your opening knowledge...; I am not gonna to play anyone more than 3/0 not being the subject a master or, OTB; like you can use database to give yourself a "fake chess knowledge", those can be used either in slow games through here.

You don't need to be a "chess doctor" to know that 2...h6 is garbage.  You never challenged me to any un-rated games previous to this.  And I don't and won't play 3/0 and anyway it would not prove anything at all about the worthiness of 2...h6.  An engines-on correspondence game is another matter though, and I don't care if you deride it as "fake chess knowledge" or whatever, on FICGS I'm coming up with novelties that will probably be used by strong masters when the games make it into chessbase (and BTW, I already have games there).

But I'm sure you have some of your victories with 2...h6 in chessbase, right?

bluedogva
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Dec 3, 2015
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#53

I think I am the recipient of some cheating . I don't know how but If you can bother to take a look at my last game - with a 1:09 left for my opponent and something over 10.00 for me the game came crashing down. I was clearly in line for a win - but the board showed no movement at all. As soon as I touched something that I thought would fix the situation, I was asked whether I would like to review the the game in archives. There - I saw that my opponent had made a move which not never came up on my screen. I was declared the loser of the game because

I abandoned the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Not true

drawingdroidfish
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bluedogva wrote:

I think I am the recipient of some cheating . I don't know how but If you can bother to take a look at my last game - with a 1:09 left for my opponent and something over 10.00 for me the game came crashing down. I was clearly in line for a win - but the board showed no movement at all. As soon as I touched something that I thought would fix the situation, I was asked whether I would like to review the the game in archives. There - I saw that my opponent had made a move which not never came up on my screen. I was declared the loser of the game because

I abandoned the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Not true

Yes, of course, this is cheating (this should be more fun than responding to belovedstalin)

pfren
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Dec 3, 2015
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#55
BelovedStalin wrote:

 Therefore, the most objective fact would be if we play some games and show me your "facts"; because you was the first who insinuated that I was a..., yes: a patzer. No analysis, no refutations, no "engine" proof..., just a simple: this only could come from a patzer...

Simply, dismal.

I do not like wasting my time with patzers. Still, if you insist, this will cost you $30 per game.

Regards.

pfren
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#56
BelovedStalin wrote:

Master made of plastic...

This is not a Master. It's your vibrator, sir.

dpnorman
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Dec 3, 2015
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#57

Develop a knight. Either knight is fine, allowing various transpositions.

BigManArkhangelsk
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#58

Just play the karo cann

ChessOfPlayer
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Dec 4, 2015
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#59
dpnorman wrote:

Develop a knight. Either knight is fine, allowing various transpositions.

Simply answered.  Case closed.

kindaspongey
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