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kindaspongey
Nov 13, 2018
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#681
kindaspongey wrote (~4 days ago):
"I showed forced winning lines in post 55, which is a complete and thorough analysis of why 2. d5 loses immediately" - staples13 (~14 hours ago)
staples13 wrote (August 29, 2018):

… After 2. d5 the game normally proceeds 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. d4. ... If the natural Nc6 is played white simply takes on c5 and black ... can sacrifice the pawn and not allow white to castle with Qxd1. ... In the Qxd1 line there is insufficient compensation for the loss of the pawn, …

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http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1606612

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kindaspongey
Nov 13, 2018
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#682
kindaspongey wrote (~4 days ago):
"I showed forced winning lines in post 55, which is a complete and thorough analysis of why 2. d5 loses immediately" - staples13 (~1 hour ago)
staples13 wrote (August 29, 2018):

… Here's another 3 minute no increment blitz game showing black cracking under the constant pressure from white's pieces.

Clearly black can not take on d4. …

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"Are we going to see staples13 identify a winning improvement for White?" - kindaspongey (~14 days ago)


"here you go Kindaspongey 1. e4 c5 2. c3 d5 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. d4 Nc6 5. Nf3 cxd4 6. cxd4 e5 7. Nc3 Bb4 8. Bd2 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 e4 10. Ne5 Nxe5 11. dxe5 Ne7 12. Qe2 O-O 13. Rd1 Qc6 14. Rd6! this was the move white missed. 14... Qc7 15. Qxe4 ..." - staples13 (~4 days ago)

"Why would black play 14...Qc7? What if 14...Qa4 15. b3 Qa3 instead?" - littlesoldier123 (~4 days ago)

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littlesoldier123
Nov 13, 2018
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#683
littlesoldier123 wrote:
staples13 wrote:
SaltyAsHell wrote:

Okay let's actually bust this kids arguments. Show us as a wining line, there must be plenty as it's forced right?

I showed  forced winning lines in post 55, which is a complete and thorough analysis of why 2. d5 loses immediately

Your "thorough" analysis did not include the move order 1. e4 c5 2. c3 d5 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. d4 e6, which is suggested by Stockfish.

 

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staples13
Nov 13, 2018
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#684

13. Qd3!

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staples13
Nov 13, 2018
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#685

We actually already showed why that move loses RighteousWarrior

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staples13
Nov 13, 2018
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#686

Black is completely lost after 1. e4 c5 2. c3 Qa4, and not even Pfren would claim otherwise

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littlesoldier123
Nov 13, 2018
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#687

1. e4 c5 2. c3 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5 4. d4 cxd4 5. Nf3 d6 6. cxd4 Nc6 7. Bc4 dxe5 8. Bxd5 Qxd5 9. Nc3 Qd6 10. d5 Nd4 11. Nxd4 exd4 12. Qxd4 e5 13. Qd3 Bd7

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HolographWars
Nov 14, 2018
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#688
Chessopera wrote:

Black is always fine in Sicilian defence specially against anti-Sicilians.

Nope. Have you ever faced the Grand Prix?

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congrandolor
Nov 14, 2018
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#689
Chessopera wrote:

Black is always fine in Sicilian defence specially against anti-Sicilians.

Black is always fine...except when it isn't!

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staples13
Nov 14, 2018
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#690

Chessopera has never once won a game on chess.com against the Alapin

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HolographWars
Nov 14, 2018
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#691
Chessopera wrote:

Grand Prix is one of the easiest anti-sicilians to deal with, that is why it is so rare at high levels.

Although theoretical equality may have been claimed, it is very elusive.

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HolographWars
Nov 14, 2018
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#692

What’s ur rating??? You think 1700 USCF is dat easy? Hmmm... Let’s play to see who is better.

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HolographWars
Nov 14, 2018
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#693

Let’s play. I’ll play the Grand Prix vs you daily.

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HolographWars
Nov 14, 2018
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#694

Wrong. There are good coaches that are “only” 1600.

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HolographWars
Nov 14, 2018
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#695

I had to work to get to classB, 

1. My IQ is lower than you think

2. I have been playing for 7 years actually.

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Former_mod_david
Nov 15, 2018
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#696

@HolographWars @kindaspongey You guys have been trolled by the same person under 2 different accounts now - we're deleting his accounts as soon as we identify him, but it renders your responses to him hard to understand, so I've been deleting those as well, but it still makes the thread hard to follow.

Please check the creation date of any accounts before you start replying to them - if it's less than a day old, try to hold off replying for at least another 24 hours, or let me know via PM.

Thanks,

David, moderator

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kindaspongey
Nov 15, 2018
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#697

I think #708 is a reaction to something that has disappeared. (#709 also, although that one somewhat stands on its own as a slightly contextless comment.)

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HolographWars
Nov 15, 2018
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#698

Ok.

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HolographWars
Nov 15, 2018
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#699

So finally, the debate may continue...

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staples13
Nov 15, 2018
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#700

Can you people please stop challenging me to games and then using an engine? I’m officially declining anymore game invites from anyone on this thread (except Rychessmaster because he is a fair and honorable player) because literally every time I accept one you all blatantly use an engine and then I have to report you and you get banned a week later.