A Bust to the Sicilian Defense

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sndeww
SoupTime4 wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:

To summarize this thread with my opinions:

 

@staples13 is not trolling. Yes, many questionable posts were made by him, but he mostly tried to answer people’s responses in a civil manner, despite many others attacks. He has tried to show some key Alapin themes and responses to variations in repertoire form. 

 

In in the end, I still do not believe the Sicilian is busted. But I have learned a thing or two from this thread (however frivolous some posts were), and the OP made an honest effort to answer questions, and doesn’t deserve most of the passive aggressive (or just aggressive) responses to his thread.

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staples13
Aug 27, 2018

In my opinion the Sicilian Defense is busted. It loses by force.

"He has tried to show some key Alapin themes and responses to variations in repertoire form."

No...he has said that the Sicilian is busted, and loses by force.

 

He said some ideas such as whites move of Na3 in some lines. It goes over many posts. Some ideas like the double edged queenside castling, though I don’t think it’s the staples13 variation.

An_asparagusic_acid
SNUDOO wrote:
SoupTime4 wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:

To summarize this thread with my opinions:

 

@staples13 is not trolling. Yes, many questionable posts were made by him, but he mostly tried to answer people’s responses in a civil manner, despite many others attacks. He has tried to show some key Alapin themes and responses to variations in repertoire form. 

 

In in the end, I still do not believe the Sicilian is busted. But I have learned a thing or two from this thread (however frivolous some posts were), and the OP made an honest effort to answer questions, and doesn’t deserve most of the passive aggressive (or just aggressive) responses to his thread.

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staples13
Aug 27, 2018

In my opinion the Sicilian Defense is busted. It loses by force.

"He has tried to show some key Alapin themes and responses to variations in repertoire form."

No...he has said that the Sicilian is busted, and loses by force.

 

He said some ideas such as whites move of Na3 in some lines. It goes over many posts. Some ideas like the double edged queenside castling, though I don’t think it’s the staples13 variation.

Apparently, you never saw an internet troll.

SoupTime4
SNUDOO wrote:
SoupTime4 wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:

To summarize this thread with my opinions:

 

@staples13 is not trolling. Yes, many questionable posts were made by him, but he mostly tried to answer people’s responses in a civil manner, despite many others attacks. He has tried to show some key Alapin themes and responses to variations in repertoire form. 

 

In in the end, I still do not believe the Sicilian is busted. But I have learned a thing or two from this thread (however frivolous some posts were), and the OP made an honest effort to answer questions, and doesn’t deserve most of the passive aggressive (or just aggressive) responses to his thread.

"

staples13
Aug 27, 2018

In my opinion the Sicilian Defense is busted. It loses by force.

"He has tried to show some key Alapin themes and responses to variations in repertoire form."

No...he has said that the Sicilian is busted, and loses by force.

 

He said some ideas such as whites move of Na3 in some lines. It goes over many posts. Some ideas like the double edged queenside castling, though I don’t think it’s the staples13 variation.

It was a stupid post from the beginning.  It ranks right up there with the ones claiming they have solved chess, and can beat stockfish.  And yet, not a single player has taken advantage of this free information.

Just my .02

sndeww

I’m simply saying he doesn’t deserve some of the hate here. No need to get all passive aggressive like the devs of League of Maidens or something.

ToothlessTigerTim

 

SoupTime4
SNUDOO wrote:

I’m simply saying he doesn’t deserve some of the hate here. No need to get all passive aggressive like the devs of League of Maidens or something.

I agree he doesn't deserve to be hated simply because of this post.  But when you make ridiculous claims, and add in the anonymity of the internet.  This is what happens.

SoupTime4
SpiderUnicorn38 wrote:
SoupTime4 wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:

I’m simply saying he doesn’t deserve some of the hate here. No need to get all passive aggressive like the devs of League of Maidens or something.

I agree he doesn't deserve to be hated simply because of this post.  But when you make ridiculous claims, and add in the anonymity of the internet.  This is what happens.

None of us hate him. I mean, we are just refuting his nonsense, not "hating" him. He has not harmed or offended any of us, so there's no reason to hate him. 

Lets hope not.  But we do live in a world where everyone is offended over something.  And I think the word "hate" is way over used, and misused. 

MorphysMayhem
SoupTime4 wrote:
SpiderUnicorn38 wrote:
SoupTime4 wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:

I’m simply saying he doesn’t deserve some of the hate here. No need to get all passive aggressive like the devs of League of Maidens or something.

I agree he doesn't deserve to be hated simply because of this post.  But when you make ridiculous claims, and add in the anonymity of the internet.  This is what happens.

None of us hate him. I mean, we are just refuting his nonsense, not "hating" him. He has not harmed or offended any of us, so there's no reason to hate him. 

Lets hope not.  But we do live in a world where everyone is offended over something.  And I think the word "hate" is way over used, and misused. 

Agreed. Let's stop being snowflakes people. 

drmrboss
SNUDOO wrote:

I’m simply saying he doesn’t deserve some of the hate here. 

sndeww
drmrboss wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:

I’m simply saying he doesn’t deserve some of the hate here. 

*be kind gif*

Ok dude if you want to be like that 👌 

nuclearkid5
The Alpin is okay,but 2...d5 is good for black
sndeww
nuclearkid5 wrote:
The Alpin is okay,but 2...d5 is good for black

I think it’s a critical move, but not overly complicated either. Alapin tends to do that

MortalConfucius

@staples13: Just read the whole article with awe and admiration at the same time!! Good job and keep enlightening us with your apt analysis and discoveries, such as this thread.

Best_Person_Ever
1e41-0 wrote:

c4 is more explosive than c3.

I played that and won😀😀

Best_Person_Ever
Bentcilian wrote:
staples13 wrote:
BobbyPhisher960 wrote:

How is Black losing?

(I know this is a troll post though)

I'm disappointed in you BobbyPhisher. You think I would spend two hours  looking up then annotating and thoroughly analyzing an opening solely as a troll post? Nonsense. This is a legitimate opinion. I fail to see black's compensation for the lack of development or center control that results from the Alapin.

I realize this is a controversial opinion since the Sicilian is so respected and beloved, but that doesn't make my analysis inherently wrong. 100 years ago no one thought there was anything smaller than an atom, but that doesn't make that true either. Questioning long held beliefs in the pursuit of truth is a necessary endeavor, and that's what we're doing here.

This is obviously a troll post.

What's a troll post?

Best_Person_Ever
Firethorn15 wrote:
staples13 wrote:
Firethorn15 wrote:
staples13 wrote:
uri65 wrote:

 

Just look at statistics from master games - it's roughly equal for white and black.

Just look at the statistics from my games. out of 581 games White wins 68 % black wins 26% and there is a draw 6%. That is a score of 71%. No other opening is capable of scoring 71%.

 1...e5 is busted - I've scored 76% wins with the Vienna on chess.com. Similarly the Pirc loses to the 5.a3 Austrian (80%), and the French loses to Tarrasch's 3.Nd2 (71%).

Do you have a sample size of 581 for each of these openings?

Not yet, admittedly. Only 250+ for 1...e5 and 1...e6. However, it turns out that things are much more simple than this: Black is simply dead after 1.g3!! (I've scored 73.5% from 615 games). We don't even need to enter any of this complicated 1.e4 stuff.

TOO MANY QUOTES!!!

Best_Person_Ever
nighteyes1234 wrote:
DeirdreSkye wrote:

A friend of mine has 8 wins , 3 draws and only one defeat(an amazing 79%) with 1.a3 in OTB.

So why play 1.e4 and give Black the chance to escape(what if he doesn't play the mistake 1...c5?) when with 1.a3 he is busted.

 

I dont understand how c5 is bad. 1 e4 c5 2 c3 d5 3 exd5 Qxd5 4 d4 g6

and only 5 Na3 or Be2 have equal winning%. Everything else favors black by big margins.

Looks like 1 e4 barely holds and probably loses....see below.

 

That is So rude 

Confused-psyduck
Bentcilian wrote:

This is the most stupidest thing I've ever heard. Sicilian is the best opening ever and gives black the most chance of winning than any other opening.

Saying the sicilian is the best opening ever is about as stupid as saying the sicilian is busted. Both statements make no sense.

SoupTime4
Bentcilian wrote:

This is the most stupidest thing I've ever heard. Sicilian is the best opening ever and gives black the most chance of winning than any other opening.

"Best" is subjective.  The "best" opening is the one that works for you.

drmrboss
VHilfiger wrote:

The open Sicilian refutes because white has multiple options where black never gets a chance to equalize with theoretically optimal play.  the closed Sicilian gives black an easy game where he will probably equalize and more importantly be very comfortable.