Agressive openings with D4?

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Xbiker

I am used to start with d4, and I like to play agressive, but it is not so easy as when the opening is with e4. For instance, I play with my cousin he almost always use the grand prix attack against me with excellent results, is there any kind of similar attack when you use d4, I am looking for something similar. I starting to have a look at the English Opening, and stonewall attack, although I do not know if that last it worth a while, if it is  only for beginners or not, because when I start d4, c4, almost everybody knows it and it is quite difficult to make a great difference in the opening, I am looking for a good and agressive variation, but not with e4. Thanks in advanced for your comments and kind regards,

Prologue1
Xbiker

Hello, THANKS for such an instructive answer, I knew most of them, but it is good to remember them,  the problem I see with D4, C4 is that although is a quite powerful opening, almost everybody knows the variations or have an  QB gambit plan prepared and it is quite difficult to surprise, normally blacks get an equal position. That was I was looking for an alternative with not so popular opening and agressive at the same time than in an ELO of 1300 could give me better results. I know that at GM masters levels QG is one of the best, but at lower levels I think that with a not so well known/predictable opening I could be better. For instance Grand Prix Attack at lowers levels is quite difficult to stop it if you do not kow it very well, but is not so good at GM level. I wonder if stonewall attack, or English Opening are good alternatives, because King Indian are more defensive, may be there is no alternative, I do not know... Thank you 

Xbiker


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AJM1988

@ Xbiker

You're too impatient hence why 1) d4 isn't for you. Play the King's gambit or Danish and report your results.

Xbiker

This one that I just put up there was my regular opening,  I know is not the better  one, among other things because c2 pawn is blocked for medium game, however my results at my level where excellent, I had two or three tricks that usally worked at this level and I was happy, I changed to Queen Gambit, but as anybody knows it, I had to to fight much harder to get the same results

Xbiker
AJM1988 wrote:

@ Xbiker

You're too impatient hence why 1) d4 isn't for you. Play the King's gambit or Danish and report your results.

I think you are right, it goes much better whith my style, but after so many time playing with D4, starting again with E4 it would be like starting again, a new world ; that why I was looking for an alternative, if exist..may be the only answer is that I would have to improve my QG technique. 

The English Opening is a serious alternative, I almost play the same with black and I feel comfortable, seems more dinamique, not so well known in general, and it can transpose to QG where I have some concepts

AJM1988

My idea of you is that you're expecting a 20 move miniature every game.

O.K. you like to play the Queen's gambit - so do I. They then decline it, if played accurately you are going to be in a 50 - 60 move game positional slugfest.

So, why are you playing the Queen's gambit if you want to be aggresive? If I was in your shoes I'd switch to the King's gambit.

MasterMatthew52

Play the London system d4 d5 Bf4

AJM1988

I love the London. What are you tring to achieve with 2) Bf4 instead of 2) Nf3?

ipcress12

Xbiker: There's always the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit.

It's aggressive. It's not as bad as people think but it is definitely a gambit.

Xbiker

Hello, THANKS A MILLION for your answer, that's been a nightmare the incoherence between QG (that seems to be the best option with D4) and my style. Now everything is clear, I see that I have to change my opening.

London System is perfect, it`s very similiar to the opening I had and it solves the problem with the c3 blocked pawn, I am sure that I am going to feel quite comfortable whith it, a great discovery, and I like the plan it had beyon attacking the king side, a great discovery for me.

The Blackmar Diemer Gambit also looks that could fit perfectly.

May be these are not the strongesto options for Grand Masters, but for medium players I think that could go perfectly, and I feel is a great adavantage a this levels when the contrary do not know your opening.

The Kings Gambit also looks excellent I am also going to study it, it is better to change, even if takes time, than not to stick to D4 if it not the best option for me, I do not like too much long an strategical positional games. If the contrary goes with E5 I can do it,  KG, and if it goes with Sicilian I ca use Grand Prix Attack that I also like a lot.

At the end, what I was looking for is an attack  not very popular  so that if the contrary do not know it, I "destroy" him, and if not that it remains still playable. I am talking of low ELOS

What of this 4 options you see better for this? (Although I am going to study all of them because I liked them all)

Many thanks endeed for your fantastic answer, it has been a great help, now I have to work in them, it is a luxury to have so many answer in such a little time and so good

Pulpofeira

Angus Dunnington's "Attacking with d4" is worth a read.

ipcress12

Xbiker: From what you say, the BDG is a good fit for you. Few people are prepared for it these days.

Christoph Scheerer's "The Blackmar-Diemer Gambit" is the best book.

Saint_Anne

You can play the Veresov and force e4 with an early f3.

Prologue1

AJM1988 wrote:

I love the London. What are you tring to achieve with 2) Bf4 instead of 2) Nf3?

Xbiker
Prologue1 wrote:
 

AJM1988 wrote:

I love the London. What are you tring to achieve with 2) Bf4 instead of 2) Nf3?

Quite a interesting explanation, thanks

Xbiker

For the moment I have tryed with the BsDG and I am surprised with the results and quite happy, thanks!!

London System will be the next one

I will report the results 

AJM1988
Prologue1 wrote:
 

AJM1988 wrote:

I love the London. What are you tring to achieve with 2) Bf4 instead of 2) Nf3?

Yeah some nice lines. I always play 2) Nf3 as standard protocol and let them commit themselves to attacking my bishop when I've developed it to f4.

AJM1988
ipcress12 wrote:

Xbiker: There's always the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit.

 

It's aggressive. It's not as bad as people think but it is definitely a gambit.

1)... Nf6 puts an end to that idea, though.