Anti-Fried Liver?

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chessoholicalien

Hi, I've fallen victim to the Fried Liver Attack several times. Can anyone recommend ways to: 1) prevent it, 2) defend against it? Thanks!

ASpieboy

Moving h6 early works.

ASpieboy

Or Qe7.

chessoholicalien

Thanks, but many of the authorities (e.g. Chernev) advise against that (h6). Doesn't it lose a tempo in the opening?

Nytik

Don't play Nxd5. Play Na5 instead.
Solved! Smile

chessoholicalien
ASpieboy wrote:

Or Qd7.


But how can I play this, I haven't moved my d-pawn yet. And how will having my Queen on d7 stop White from playing Bxf7 or Nxf7?

chessoholicalien
Nytik wrote:

Don't play Nxd5. Play Na5 instead.
Solved! 


I don't understand this. Can you please elaborate on the moves starting from the diagram position (with Black to play)? Thanks.

TheGrobe

Have you looked into the Traxler?

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/traxler-discussion

costelus

1. Well, playing Nf6 at the last move you basically tell White you are not afraid of Ng5. h6 is very bad, it is simply an useless pawn push at the end of the board, when Black should play in the center instead.

2. Try playing the following line, but be careful, things might get very tactical sometimes!

 

In this position I bet that most of your opponents will play 6.dxc6 or 6.Bxb5. The critical line is however 6.Bf1 and that is where all the fun begins. As a conclusion, if you don't like fireworks, then don't play e5. c6 is a perfectly valid answer and you can play a somehow quiet game.
rooperi

Play the fritz variation, it's probably my favourte of all lines:

Nytik
chessoholicalien wrote:
Nytik wrote:

Don't play Nxd5. Play Na5 instead.
Solved! 


I don't understand this. Can you please elaborate on the moves starting from the diagram position (with Black to play)? Thanks.


rooperi

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/two-knights-fritz-variation

Here's an old post of mine

mathijs

This isn't the actual Fried liver attack yet, that occurs after the further moves 4...d5 5.exd5 Nxd5 (I'm pretty sure this is what Nytik was refering to, 5...Na5 is more standard here.) 6.Nxf7!?

In the diagram position, apart from the line with 5...Na5, you could also try the very interesting 4...Bc5, the Traxler defence. I'm part of a group that analyzes this line here.

Peedee

Another simple reply is to play 3...Bc5 instead of 3...Nf6.

PrawnEatsPrawn

It's mainline Two Knights Defence:

 

alternatives 1:

 

 

 

 

 

 

alternative 2:

 

Yakov Estrin's book "Two Knights Defence" is the bible for old timers like myself.

p.s. sorry, seem to have bungled the post, the middle diagram shows a typical continuation in the Fritz variation.

chessoholicalien
Peedee wrote:

Another simple reply is to play 3...Bc5 instead of 3...Nf6.


Thanks, but I don't see how that stops White from playing 4.Ng5...

theturtlemoves
chessoholicalien
Nytik wrote:
chessoholicalien wrote:
Nytik wrote:

Don't play Nxd5. Play Na5 instead.
Solved! 


I don't understand this. Can you please elaborate on the moves starting from the diagram position (with Black to play)? Thanks.


 


Thanks Nytik. I think I like this line best so far, even if it does saddle Black with an isolated c-pawn.

Thanks guys, I will look into the Traxler and Fritz variations and come back on those :-)

Edit: haha, I like your variation Shambo!

PrawnEatsPrawn
chessoholicalien wrote:
Peedee wrote:

Another simple reply is to play 3...Bc5 instead of 3...Nf6.


Thanks, but I don't see how that stops White from playing 4.Ng5...


 erm... 4 .... Qxg5

rooperi

In the Fritz, If white gets it right, Black's game is still very playable. If white gets it wrong, it's really fun: