I'm a fan of the Four Pawn Attack myself.
It's always fun to push your pawns like crazy and get a huge center!
Here's one of my favorite instructive FPA Games:
Anti KID with d4.
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What do you play against 1...d5?
@SimpleUp- Queen's Gambit, Obviously. Psh, like there are other alternatives.
@Hessmaster- I don't think so. The bishop can interpose the rook and then the king has a flight square on g7.
6 ..Na6?? realy 2244 rating.
6..c5 right away is better
Still good to see this game.
I don't know if Na6 is an outright blunder as your ?? seems to denote but it doesn't seem inherently bad. It offers the knight a good square on c5 which offers a significant edge over Nbd7. That's just me, though.
Lane-TIOBE wrote:
@SimpleUp- Queen's Gambit, Obviously. Psh, like there are other alternatives.
@Hessmaster- I don't think so. The bishop can interpose the rook and then the king has a flight square on g7.
There are many ways to play the Queen's Gambit. How you play it would go a long way toward figuring out what you might want to consider against the KID.
If, for example, you play it via 2.Nf3, you might consider the Torre or Barry, both of which are perfectly strong against the KID, but are very different in their approaches and temperaments.
If you play the exchange, perhaps you enjoy playing to create weaknesses away from the opponent's castled position. Maybe something like the Bayonet. If you play the Bf4 lines, you might be comfortable transposing to a London with an early c4, in the style of many London players.
Maybe you play the Bg5 mainlines. Maybe you transpose to a Catalan.
How you play against one line isn't the be all/end all for how you ought to play against another...but it can tell people an awful lot. Particularly helpful if you're seeking their advice.
Sorry, I was trying to make a joke. My bad. Humor lost.
Thanks guys...I did see the three pawn establishment in some annotations I have studied with emphasis on the Bayonnet attack. A 4 pawn center seems even more impressive.
I don't know if Na6 is an outright blunder as your ?? seems to denote but it doesn't seem inherently bad. It offers the knight a good square on c5 which offers a significant edge over Nbd7. That's just me, though.
Error. I'm not sure if i am the one to judge a 2244 rating player. And i don't know this line. I see only problems with this move. I like it when someone playes this 4 pawns attack. Many ways to attack this. An example.
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Looking trough the database i noticed that Banikas was very succesfull with this opening so much to learn here.
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A Game including the Na6 and the c5. Black won this one. So i was wrong about the Na6 move. No ?? needed there.
Khurme- If it's so weak against people higher than 1700? Why do we have 5,000+ games with it on our own chess.com database? The Four Pawn Attack runs over lower level players and does exactly what it is supposed to against higher level players. It is given a 44% win for white. That is pretty respectable as far as I am concerned. I'll be happy to play you in a game and have you prove me wrong ;) The Four Pawn Attack is a perfectly viable opening.
Conzipe wrote:
If you want a system which is easy to learn and caughts a lot of KID players off-guard, the active london system with d4, Nf3, Bf4, e3, h3, Be2, c4, is quite a poisonous one. Especially if they go for the standard plan of playing for e7-e5. As a KID myself I'm quite scared of meeting this and I don't now any clear path to equality for black.
Conzipe, do you have an examplegame? I love to see it.
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 d5 3. Bf4 c5 This?
How do you beat The four pawn opening
Thanx Conzipe for giving the examples. I will study it soon for new ideas.
personally, i like blackmar diemer gambit for just about every one of my d4 openings, including king's indian, and especially against d5. there are multiple variations on it, and i will play d4-e4 even when d5 is not played. advancing to e4 creates the d4-e5 combination, which is devastating against KID and quite a few other openings for black, as it takes center control and seriously hurts black's chance at developing anything useful. halosar trap, which i've included as a mainline, is an incredibly powerful series of moves in which black's moves are actually quite viable, and it usually results in players following the mainline until its too late to go back, and i've already gained a lot of position.
Hi guys,
Can someone share a good strategy with me as white for handling the King's Indian Defense with a d4 opening. I do fine with d4. openings except with the KID!
Thanks